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Junk.....they just don't get it

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#1 ·
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=649138


Family has run business since 1950s; town wants screening, new permit
By DAN BENSON
dbenson@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Aug. 19, 2007
Town of Kewaskum - Two brothers being sued by this Washington County town for continuing a salvage yard operation that their father began about 50 years ago have now each been issued 30 municipal citations for operating a junkyard without a license and creating a public nuisance.


New homes overlook a salvage yard in the Town of Kewaskum. The town says the business, which has been operating for decades, violates current zoning codes


Donald and David Stern were sued on Aug. 3 by the town for operating Don's Salvage Yard at 3350 E. Moraine Road, about 2 miles northeast of the Village of Kewaskum, without a conditional use permit.

That was followed by three citations being filed against each of the Sterns on Aug. 8 and then what the Sterns' lawyer, Bill Neary, called "a deluge" of 27 more on Wednesday.

Each of the 60 citations carries a forfeiture of $375.

It's a battle that's grown increasingly personal between longtime town residents, including the former town clerk, and officials who say they are seeking to protect property values, including those of residents in newer subdivisions.

"There's been plenty of other places with miscellaneous crap laying around, and we made them clean it up. They should, too," Town Chairman Ellis Kahn said. "It brings down people's property values."

Neary said the salvage yard was there decades before new subdivisions and zoning arrived.

"Their father, Richard, ran the yard before they did, all the way back into the '50s," Neary said. "It was there long before the zoning regulations were."

The lawsuit asks a judge to order the Sterns to remove junked cars, trucks, parts and other items from the salvage yard and from David's adjacent property, where he lives.

Donald's wife, former town clerk Sandra Stern, is named in the lawsuit, as is David's wife, Darlene Stern.

According to the lawsuit, the two properties are zoned for agricultural use and require a conditional use permit to be used as salvage yards.

The town is seeking a restraining order to prevent more junk from being added to the properties. The town asks that the properties be brought into compliance with zoning codes; if they are not, the town wants permission to go onto the property to remove vehicles and other junk.

Neary said the Sterns contend the salvage yard is a legal, non-conforming use since it predates the passage in the mid-1980s of the zoning ordinances being cited by the town.

Kahn said complaints about the yard date back to the 1980s and picked up steam "four or five years ago."

Neary said that's because of the development of about half a dozen new homes on Kara Court, just west of salvage yard.

Kahn wouldn't confirm that residents on Kara Court were the source of complaints about the yard, but he did say that most of the residents there, as well as other nearby residents, have made a point of attending meetings where the Sterns' situation is a topic of discussion.

The town is taking action now, Kahn said, because the Sterns agreed in 2004 to bring their operation into compliance and then reneged on that promise.

"They agreed to do something in 2004. Now it's 2007 and they haven't done anything," he said. "If you had a pimple on your arm that started out as a little pimple and you didn't do what you were supposed to do and sooner or later it became a boil, wouldn't you bring it to a head?"

He said the Sterns aren't being singled out, but that the action against the Sterns is a continuation of a town campaign to clean up properties.

What the town wants, Kahn said, is for the Sterns to build a screen around the yard, trim back bushes and other foliage, remove items in the right-of-way of the nearby road and obtain a conditional use permit.

That's nothing more than what other property owners have been asked to do and have done, he said.

Neary agreed that other property owners, including at least one other salvage yard, have complied with the town's orders.

"But it's our belief that as a legal non-conforming use, the Sterns shouldn't be required to go to that expense," Neary said.

Wife in the middle
Sandra Stern said the dispute forced her to quit her job as town clerk as she found herself in the middle of a battle between her family and her employer.

"Let's just say I quit to preserve my self-respect," she said, declining to elaborate.

"You can imagine the uncomfortable position she found herself in, especially as an elected official," Neary said.

Donald and David Stern declined to comment for this article and directed a reporter to Neary.

Sandra Stern resigned abruptly as town clerk, Kahn said.

"We picked up the pieces. That's to put it mildly," Kahn said.

Kahn also charged that the Sterns' yard is not licensed by the state Department of Transportation and has been sanctioned by the state Department of Natural Resources.

Sandra Stern said her husband's business is both licensed and in compliance with the DNR.

Inspector finds compliance
Dave Kendziorski, a consultant for the Auto Recyclers Cooperative Compliance Program, which inspects auto and scrap yards for the DNR to see if they are in compliance with storm water restrictions, said the Sterns' yard has been in compliance with the program ever since they joined in 2002.

Kendziorski, who inspects up to 400 yards each year in six states, said he most recently inspected the Sterns' yard earlier this month.




Kewaskum is located very close to Milwaukee and developement is coming. Fact is, its already at their doorsteps. The people that have this junkyard don't get it. Like it or not, there days of operating a junk yard are racing to an end.
No, it isn't right that people built McMansions in view of the junkyard and are now whining about the junk. The world is not always just. The people in the McMansions are going to the end of the earth to shut down the junkyard. These are successful, educated people. Undoubtedly, some will have friends in high places.

The junk yard is about to be legislated, fined or otherwise taken out of business. The people that own this land are simply too thick headed to get it. Once civilization encroaches, activities which may have been OK in the past become unacceptable. It is a fight the junkyard owners cannot win. They may indeed win in the court system. They will eventually lose. If nothing else, the cops will fine them out of existence. Anyone ever hear the saying "you can't fight city hall"?

If these people had agricultural land rather than a junkyard, I would be more sympathetic to their plight. The end result, however, would be the same. When civilization enters an area, it stops for nothing.
 
#2 ·
What the town wants, Kahn said, is for the Sterns to build a screen around the yard, trim back bushes and other foliage, remove items in the right-of-way of the nearby road and obtain a conditional use permit.

It's not like they are trying to shut it down... just asking that it be a bit more slightly. However, I too believe that since they were their first, the others are out of luck...
 
#3 ·
Stories like this really annoy me. It's real simple folks - the junk yard was there first. If the new neighbors want the view screened off, they should pay for it, and even then it should be up to the property owners - owners of the junk yard, that is - whether or not they want it. No reason why they shouldn't want to oblige, but bottom line, it is THEIR property, it is up to them. And if they've always offered a lousy view, it's the developer's fault for choosing that location and the homeowner's fault for buying it. You don't come in as a newcomer and make unreasonable demands in an established neighborhoood!

I have serious issues with eminant domain, and this case seems a bit related.
 
#4 ·
It irritates me to no end that an astabilshed business can be ran off their property.

Others seem to think its ok though.

I think someone would have to die before I was ran off my land.

There is such a thing as right vs wrong.

This is wrong. Its as wrong as anything out there.

Take a mans established means of supporting himself? You might as well put him in prison for the rest of his life, or execute him.
 
#6 ·
There's an air force base west of Phoenix, Luke AFB, that people have been trying to shut down as they put housing developments on the agricultural land surrounding the base, and are complaining about the noise.

I think the end result was "no more develpoments" within a certain radius of the base. Luke has been there forever, way before the developments.

How can people be so arrogant/stupid. If they didn't like the noise. Why buy there in the first place?

If they don't like the junk yard, cough up money to fence it or move...The junk yard was there first.
 
#7 ·
Sorry Hoop, your the one who doesn't "get it". This is yet another example of monied folks using their money, influence, and a govt. entity to try and run roughshod over someone who offends their esthetic sensibilities. "Undoubtedly, some will have friends in high places", true and pathetic at the same time, the good old boy network strikes again. The fact that these are successful, educated, connected, people should have absolutely no bearing on this situation.

These newcomers should not be allowed to deny these men the use of their property and the ability earn a living. What are the brothers supposed to, do shut THEIR successful business and start flipping burgers?

Something in this article is confusing, first it says the yard is in town, but if I read this correctly the yard isn't even within the city, it's 2 miles out of town, and zoned for ag. I doubt any land within the city is zoned for ag. How ridiculous is it that the city is allowed to evensue them? If there were any justice in the world a city's power to affect outlying property owners should end at the city limits.

According to the lawsuit, the two properties are zoned for agricultural use. If I were the brothers and had to do away with the salvage yard I know exactly what I would do...........hogs, lots and lots of hogs. See how McMansioners liked that.

But that probably would be allowed either. Sadly our country is rapidly becoming no longer a place that is of, by, and for the people, but a rather place that's of, by, and for the wealthy!
 
#8 ·
DenverGirlie said:
It's not like they are trying to shut it down... just asking that it be a bit more slightly. However, I too believe that since they were their first, the others are out of luck...
DG, oh yes they are trying to shut it down. If the yard owners agreed to this atrocity I can almost guarantee you they would never get the conditional use permit or it would be a short term one that would never be renewed.
 
#9 ·
It's wrong~ but I imagine the junkyard is going to go Bye-Bye.
I grew up in a little town in California. Was almond country when we moved there. By the time I was in HighSchool someone figured out grapes would grow just as well as Almonds~ and we went from a little hodunk nothing town to “Wine Country” almost overnight. Vineyards and million dollor homes on every available acre. They built a subdivision over looking the river with those little “McMansions” and called it “Riverfront”~ man where those rich new home owners mad when they realized their little McMansions overlooked the piece of river right in front of the slaughterhouse~ and was just high enough above it to give a truly fine example of the many aroma’s produced there!

Less than two years later the Slaughterhouse was gone~ everyone who worked there were now out of work. They could not afford to feed their families as their skills were no longer wanted or needed in “Wine Country” and picking grapes hardly feeds a family.
 
#10 ·
There is no reason that the junkyard can't continue to operate if they put up a perimeter picket fence and keep all the junk inside. It was probably against the rules to have junk lying everywhere years ago but nobody complained. Now someone complained and they need to do what should have been done 50 years ago.
 
#11 ·
If I owned the junkyard, and I knew I was up against a brick wall, I'd....

figure out how much my property was worth now...
how much if it were cleaned up...
how much it'd cost to clean it up...

get all the net worths, subtract all of the fines, and see where I stood...

if my p'd off factor was high enough, and I was going to lose my livlihood and my property anyway....... I'd cash out all of my assets, put em in a tin can, or a safe nonattachable location... and then I'd start collecting roadkill and letting the buzzards eat... start collecting skunks and letting em breed in the old cars... every rotten thing I could.... and in the end, I'd set it all on fire, with as many tires as possible.... and let them have the yard... but the current evil neighbors would pay... for many weeks or months... and then after it's all said and done, just walk away.

Or, I'd clean it up spotless... you could eat off the ground... and then I'd have weekend free kegger parties... invite every motorcycle crew in the area... and have 'the loudest muffler' competitions... start a rock band....

Or, I'd get some boom boxes, and I'd slowly start cleaning up the lot... and play the group A Dependable Skeleton at full volume while cleaning... unless they're brain damaged already, "ADS" will make them... I can listen to them for a few songs, when I'm feeling bright and cheery... there's nothing that I know that'll bring me back down to gloom and doom so fast... :rolleyes:
 
#12 ·
e.alleg said:
There is no reason that the junkyard can't continue to operate if they put up a perimeter picket fence and keep all the junk inside. It was probably against the rules to have junk lying everywhere years ago but nobody complained. Now someone complained and they need to do what should have been done 50 years ago.

If the newbies object to looking at a junkyard they should fence/screen THEIR property and leave an established business alone. The article plainly states the yard was a going establishment long before there were any
"rules", or zoning regulations, and most certainly before there were any snooty newcomers.

This makes about as much sense as plunking a fireplug down beside a parked car and then issuing the car owner a ticket for parking beside a fireplug. It's the same thing really.

I personnaly hate zoning laws, it's just another way for the few to control and impose their will upon the great unwashed masses.
 
#13 ·
In Wisconsin, a "Town" is a "township", and is a unit of government between a municipality and a county.

Also, it has been 20 years or more since all salvage yards were required to be fenced or screened--this isn't a new requirement.

But, I certainly feel that the Stern brothers are getting the dirty end of the stick in this deal.
 
#15 ·
man where those rich new home owners mad when they realized their little McMansions overlooked the piece of river right in front of the slaughterhouse~ and was just high enough above it to give a truly fine example of the many aroma’s produced there!

Less than two years later the Slaughterhouse was gone~ everyone who worked there were now out of work.
Cheryl are you sure the slaughterhouse didn't just go out of business? How could they be forced out? The slaughterhouse sure should have raised a stink and gone to the state legislature, the media, I don't know where really, but it just seems unbelievable to me that existing businesses can be forcibly removed due to the whims of what essentially are STRANGERS.
 
#16 ·
Well i would like to say welcome to wisconsin this is the way things are going near any city a scrap yard is getting very hard to find they have so many rules , most will not let you walk the yard an parts are getting very close to new parts price in some casses

people are constanly moving into neighborhoods then trying to make them what they want example in madison many people moved to the are surrounding the rail lines and switching yards then petioned the city to enact a law in the city that trains could not blow thier whistels / horns in the city limits this by the way is in contradiction to fedral ransprotation safty laws that state a train must sound it's signal at all ungatted intersections so it took a few years to work it out in the courts where they deturmined that the city woul have to pay to install locking gates at all rail intersection since this was going to cost the city millons of dollars with each gate instalation costing about a $100,000.00 and these are not mcmantions along these rail lines they are avg 1000 sq foot WWII era housing. but are very desirable because they are close to downtown. maybe if these people did a little manual labor like the previos owners of these houses whom many of worked for oscar meyer located just the other side for the switching yard they could sleep thu the trains i know i do i live less than 200 yards from a very active rail line milloin tons of corn pass my house every night

some of our citizens and govenor have a different meaning for our state motto "FORWARD" they have thier direction and the wrong direction
 
#18 ·
THE MCMANISONEIRS LOVE THE VEIW!
Your honner I offer into evidence the fact that each one of them insisted on and paid for at least one window with a veiw of the site in each of their houses.




SunsetSonata said:
Cheryl are you sure the slaughterhouse didn't just go out of business? How could they be forced out? The slaughterhouse sure should have raised a stink and gone to the state legislature, the media, I don't know where really, but it just seems unbelievable to me that existing businesses can be forcibly removed due to the whims of what essentially are STRANGERS.
LOL You really dont know much about small town politics do you?
He with the judge and sheriff wins! Whether you buy them with mony or by being related it really doesnt take a lot.
There used to be a state trooper here who bought Tax sale properties. Most of the properties were for sale because the owners had had so many leagl problems they couldnt keep up with their bills. Yep all it takes is 3 speeding tickets and it ruins your ability to earn a living around here.
 
#19 ·
Texican, I'm with you, bud!
Life for those turds would be
unbearable for as long as I could
do it. I'm a hard case about property
rights. I'd like to see some lawsuits
against people for "raising property
values". Its a dis-service to those
of us who have allways been here
and plan to stay. I don't want my
property to increase in value. It will
only make it cost me more to keep it.
Cost my children more when I die.
I already know some folks who had to
sell out and move because they could
no longer afford to stay in their home.
 
#20 ·
Well I guess when all the taxes paid by the 'illegal' business plus interest are returned the the owners, they can shut them down. You cannot rezone a parcel of real property when takes from the owner without compensating him/her for the loss incurred. In some of your minds, it would be ok to tell Miller Park that we've now rezoned this to residential so you can't have the stadium.
 
#23 ·
SunsetSonata said:
Cheryl are you sure the slaughterhouse didn't just go out of business? How could they be forced out? The slaughterhouse sure should have raised a stink and gone to the state legislature, the media, I don't know where really, but it just seems unbelievable to me that existing businesses can be forcibly removed due to the whims of what essentially are STRANGERS.
I really can't say for sure~ I was a teenager and I mostly had boys on my mind at the time! But I do recall my parents talking about it a lot for the two years~ I know their were lawsuits filed~ I recall hearing that it wouldn't be happening if there were not so many new Lawyers who purchased in Riverview~ and I know the slaughterhouse closed down and the employees (some friends parents) were out of work.

I know the old "grainery" was shut down a few years before that~ and now it's a Sizzler. The Almond factory was torn down years and years ago and now it's a mall. There are no almond orchards there at all anymore~ all vineyards~ grapes as far as the eye can see. I hear people talking about Paso now as a vacation destination~ but I really don't see why even with all the little Boutiques and vineyards..........I grew up there and I BELEIVE if you drive by Paso Robles too slowly on the 101 part of your soul will be sucked off..........
 
#24 ·
So if the junk yard is forced to close, can they sue the home owners for their increased value?

Obviously the yyard was there before the homes were built. The property was worth less when they bought it - they are saying this already.

without the yard, thier property is now worth more.

This 'gain' in value should be awarded to the yard owners.

--->Paul
 
#26 ·
While I feel for the folks. They have a problem that seems pretty simple to fix.
Screen it in or fence it off and clean the place up a bit.

At first I felt for them, till I read on.

In our small town we had almost the exact same problem. Once things got really looked into. The old man that onwed this salvage yard would have been much better off to just fence it off.

He would not do it. We were going to grandfather him in so he could continue his yard. He would not fence in his yard. He felt he didn't have too.

This just made more and more folks look at his operation. No new cars were allowed to be hauled in. Then No cars, parts or scrap metal was to be removed with out being in compliance. He would not fence it in.

It got to the point were the EPA was involved. Its fenced in now. Chain link. Waiting to be cleaned up. There tunred out to be HUGE amounts of wase oil dumped on the land, old car batteries in the ground and much much more.

All the guy had to do was fence it off. Keep his junk to him self and out of others eye shot.

I happen to like junk yards and such. I just do. I like looking as I drive by some OUT IN THE COUNTRY junk yard and seeing what they got.

Just with more folks moving to the country and to smaller country towns. We are having to change our ways.

Heck, around here is you have say 10 acres of ground. It better be maintained.

You can have nice solid woods, but the face lands and drainage ditches need to be maintained and accessable.