[nchobbyfarm]

Deleted. Double post for some reason.

 

[@Dogpatch]

Sitting it out may not be a choice when the army of one side or the other shows up and demands your stores and conscripts you/yours into their service.

If they will leave us alone, I’d fair much better. Doubt that would happen.

Can someone confirm or deny...I understand that FEMA has the legal power to take anything you own in an emergency for their own use or distribution to others??? Generators, food, water, bedding...

 

[Wind Ridge Homestead]

I consider our group well prepared for any sort of "up-evil" When I was searching for a destination for our homestead I created a list of more than 30 "must haves" before I would buy land. Civil unrest factored in high on the list. Security and fortification played a large role as well.

A modern civil war would not have two sides. It would have far more. Some sides would be based on political party (and there are lots of those) some would be based on religion, There would be chaos/anarchy faction that would take on all sides. They just want to burn it all down thinking that its a free for all without repercussions. Outside interests (like China) would insert itself. Native tribes would want to reclaim lands.

A modern civil war would not really be about uniforms or armies or even land/territories. Each side just wants to eliminate the people on the other side. There is also the faction of "I just want to break the law and kill and steal stuff locally, meaning I dont want to travel outside my home area."

We have been preparing for the "Shuns" Inflation", "Deflation", "Depression", "Recession", Aggression", , "invasion", "Starvation" and a lot of other things that would come about with civil unrest (Such as supply chain collapse).

I think all we have done here has helped. There are very few people here for me to deal with. People have had more than 2000 years to move/live here and to date not may have.

I dont hope it to happen but Im secure in thinking we will do ok.

 

[Mike in Ohio]

Can someone confirm or deny...I understand that FEMA has the legal power to take anything you own in an emergency for their own use or distribution to others??? Generators, food, water, bedding...

No, FEMA does not take your stuff to give to others.

 

[@Dogpatch]

No, FEMA does not take your stuff to give to others.

Thanks, that's good to know. Seems I read that during the last rounds of horrific hurricanes.

 

[muleskinner2]

Can someone confirm or deny...I understand that FEMA has the legal power to take anything you own in an emergency for their own use or distribution to others??? Generators, food, water, bedding...

BS. That would be after the gunfight.

 

[MoonRiver]

Thanks, that's good to know. Seems I read that during the last rounds of horrific hurricanes.

FEMA has no such authority; however

• Eminent domain under a national emergency: While FEMA cannot seize property under a standard disaster declaration, a presidential declaration of a national emergency can invoke broader powers under the Stafford Act. In these rare instances, the government's power of eminent domain allows it to acquire facilities, equipment, and supplies. However, this action requires just compensation to the property owner, as mandated by the Fifth Amendment.

 

[HDRider]

Ya'll act like there rules to this

 

[Danaus29]

If you know anyone who has lost property through Emminent Domain you'll know that the US govt's version of "just compensation" is by no means "just". They might give $100 for your 2 year old, purchased for $2,000, high quality generator. And no consideration for the damage they did to your property when they commandeered it, or the delivery and installation costs of the replacement.

 

[nodak3]

Lost food through eminent domain dating back to Sherman's march to the sea is why some in my family still celebrate New Year's Day with black eyed peas. Hungry armies and hungry hordes can quickly overpower the best prepped and take whatever they want.

Don't kid yourself. Prep, yes, stupid not to prep.

But the best way to survive is for cooler heads to shut down the screaming nuts and work for peace.

 

[B&L Chicken Ranch and Spa]

I think one way of putting it (crudely) is "Red and Blue". Look at Trump's speech today to the Generals and Admirals;

"And I told Pete we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military — National Guard, but military — because we’re going into Chicago very soon. That’s a big city with an incompetent governor. Stupid governor. "

I don't think it will split as cleanly as the previous civil war (if it happens) where it was by state. You have blue states with large red rural areas (for example, Illinois) and you have red states with large blue cities (Ohio and Texas).

Do you think the U.S. would split into multiple countries peacefully?

Considering the border issues and politics of today, I would expect a civil war to begin as a Red vs Blue state, but would quickly evolve into a race war.

The cartels, islom, gangs, the recent invaders, are more organized than those of us who have families and jobs.
Whites have been moving around the country for jobs, education and have lost their ties with deep family.
Our invaders tend to live in groups.

For those of us who have gamed a bit, that advantage of coordination at the start is important.

The Marine Corps rifle team is still a formidable opponent, a small group that works well together will do well initially.

 

[MoonRiver]

Lost food through eminent domain dating back to Sherman's march to the sea is why some in my family still celebrate New Year's Day with black eyed peas. Hungry armies and hungry hordes can quickly overpower the best prepped and take whatever they want.

Don't kid yourself. Prep, yes, stupid not to prep.

But the best way to survive is for cooler heads to shut down the screaming nuts and work for peace.

Screaming nuts are for show, they are not the problem. There are groups of radical Islamists, anarchists, Marxists, communists, Chinese, drug cartels, etc., that have set up shop in the US waiting for the right opportunity. The same people and groups that finance the radical left are financing some of these other groups. While independent, it is not that hard to imagine some overarching coordination among the groups.

 

[JRHill02]

I'm a nut who doesn't scream. I am on the leave me alone, go away side. But I will talk and walk with you. I'll even let you lead the conversation if you'll only shut up for a moment and listen. I may invite you to come back. Or I may ask you never come back again at your own risk because you look like a cougar.

 

[HDRider]

Federal agents with Homeland Security Investigations discovered an additional 200,000 SIM cards at a location in New Jersey

The seizure announced by the Secret Service last week of active SIM farms at abandoned apartment buildings located at more than five sites was already the largest of its kind. Law enforcement had discovered 300 SIM servers — over 100,000 SIM cards — enabling encrypted, anonymous communication and capable of sending 30 million text messages per minute.

Agents were first tipped off last spring, and officials believe that among other foreign links, the telecommunications network was connected to Chinese actors, according to two law enforcement sources briefed on the probe.

Officials said the servers were so powerful they could have disabled cell phone towers and launched distributed denial of services attacks with the ability to block emergency communications like EMS and police dispatch. An official briefed on the investigation told reporters that the sophisticated network "could text message the entire country within 12 minutes" and added that "this was well organized and well funded."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/feds-sim-cards-nj-after-disrupting-network-threatened-u-n-general-assembly/

 

[HDRider]

 

[HDRider]

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson says the right wants a “rematch” of the Civil War because ICE is deporting illegal immigrants.

“A couple of years ago, I said very candidly that the right wing in this country wants a rematch of the Civil War.”

 

[HDRider]

Both Antifa and the appeasing Oregon officials are our new neo-Confederate secessionists. They feel that their states are now autonomous entities that are still entitled to federal money but not obligated to follow federal laws.

Reactionary, Neo-Confederate Portland

Portland’s left-wing mobs and officials are waging a neo-Confederate-style rebellion—defying federal law, protecting illegal aliens, and turning the city into a sanctuary for anarchy.

victorhanson.com

 

[JRHill02]

Both Antifa and the appeasing Oregon officials are our new neo-Confederate secessionists. They feel that their states are now autonomous entities that are still entitled to federal money but not obligated to follow federal laws.

Reactionary, Neo-Confederate Portland

Portland’s left-wing mobs and officials are waging a neo-Confederate-style rebellion—defying federal law, protecting illegal aliens, and turning the city into a sanctuary for anarchy.

victorhanson.com

Under Portland's 'new system' it's not just the Democrats. The city council is one person shy of a literal SOCIALIST majority with one other leftist who often swings to their side to create a majority when issues come to a vote. Wealthy folks/families are exiting the city in increasing numbers leaving fewer rich people to tax to death to fund their agendas. The financial mess in Portland is of their own doing and it is only causing the leftists to get even angrier.

 

[Orchardsmith]

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson says the right wants a “rematch” of the Civil War because ICE is deporting illegal immigrants.

“A couple of years ago, I said very candidly that the right wing in this country wants a rematch of the Civil War.”

Huh? You mean so we can free the slaves owned by the Democrats again?

 

[Wind Ridge Homestead]

I very much support this administration and their actions since taking office. Its better than Id hoped for.