[JRHill02]

they will take what they want and destroy anything they can't carry off.

If they can't drive or its too far to walk its an advantage. Looters and thieves are lazy.

Some years back an unoccupied cabin was broken into and much of the stuff stolen was along the path because they got tired of dragging it off.

 

[Mike in Ohio]

It seems the worm has turned. In the past you loved throwing your nonsense term "doom porn" at me.

If you are going to use a phrase, get it right. It's "doomer porn". A civil war does not necessarily mean doom, nor does it mean the end of the world as we know it. No worm has turned. Note that my post referenced things like supply chain disruptions. I did not rant about zombie hordes. I did not mention nuclear blasts or huddling in bunkers. I didn't even mention weapons. I leave those sorts of doomer fantasies to you.

 

[Mike in Ohio]

I think there is a good case for civil war at some point. Like Ohio Mike, my weak point would be primarily fuel. Of course we dont know how any of it will unfold so its impossible to know what we will have access to and what we wont.

My power comes from Canada [?], so we might not have a problem with power...but you dont know whether it will be sabotaged, or rationed...or what?

I have a 300 gallon fuel tank on legs with a hose and filter. I stopped using it because I don't go through gasoline fast enough to justify filling it under normal circumstances.

The reason I started the thread is I had asked several friends who are recent (within the last 5 years) flag level retirees their thoughts on the Hegsworth meeting and current events. Both mentioned an increased risk of civil war given the domestic deployment of active duty troops as well as the activation of National Guard units. They also mentioned the divisive political climate. I also have a number of friends (active and retired) just below flag rank. Similar types of thoughts. What's interesting to me is that most aren't couching their thoughts in terms of blaming one side or the other.

This is what got me thinking about what preps I might be lacking. I mentioned CB radios in an earlier comment. I've been fine using cellphones but I'm not sure how reliable they would be if there was a civil war. I haven't had a CB radio since the 1970s. Is that doomer porn thinking? Some might believe so. I think having an alternative communications capability is a reasonable low cost consideration. It's not fear driven. It's called planning and preparing.

Prior to the civil war, and even after it started in 1861, many folks thought it would be over in a month or so. Boy were they wrong.

 

[HDRider]

If you are going to use a phrase, get it right. It's "doomer porn". A civil war does not necessarily mean doom, nor does it mean the end of the world as we know it. No worm has turned. Note that my post referenced things like supply chain disruptions. I did not rant about zombie hordes. I did not mention nuclear blasts or huddling in bunkers. I didn't even mention weapons. I leave those sorts of doomer fantasies to you.

Weasel words. Own it man.

BTW - When the second civil war does happen, what are the sides? Which one are you going to join?

 

[HDRider]

I have a 300 gallon fuel tank on legs with a hose and filter. I stopped using it because I don't go through gasoline fast enough to justify filling it under normal circumstances.

The reason I started the thread is I had asked several friends who are recent (within the last 5 years) flag level retirees their thoughts on the Hegsworth meeting and current events. Both mentioned an increased risk of civil war given the domestic deployment of active duty troops as well as the activation of National Guard units. They also mentioned the divisive political climate. I also have a number of friends (active and retired) just below flag rank. Similar types of thoughts. What's interesting to me is that most aren't couching their thoughts in terms of blaming one side or the other.

This is what got me thinking about what preps I might be lacking. I mentioned CB radios in an earlier comment. I've been fine using cellphones but I'm not sure how reliable they would be if there was a civil war. I haven't had a CB radio since the 1970s. Is that doomer porn thinking? Some might believe so. I think having an alternative communications capability is a reasonable low cost consideration. It's not fear driven. It's called planning and preparing.

Prior to the civil war, and even after it started in 1861, many folks thought it would be over in a month or so. Boy were they wrong.

Funny enough, I got an invite to a prepper group local here a couple of days ago. I think their antenna are up high.

 

[Mike in Ohio]

Weasel words. Own it man.

BTW - When the second civil war does happen, what are the sides? Which one are you going to join?

My own side. The fact that the two sides driving this dysfunction can't find a non-violent answer to their disagreements is their problem and only peripherally mine. Y'all willing to die for your cause, feel free to indulge yourselves.

 

[HDRider]

My own side. The fact that the two sides driving this dysfunction can't find a non-violent answer to their disagreements is their problem and only peripherally mine. Y'all willing to die for your cause, feel free to indulge yourselves.

I see. It is you against everyone else in this civil war scenario you dreamed up.

 

[Mike in Ohio]

I see. It is you against everyone else in this civil war scenario you dreamed up.

If that's how you wish to perceive it. I should have included that I have plenty of popcorn in my response to you. To make it clear to even the densest person, it's me sitting it out and tending to my own business. If you interpret that to mean "me against everyone else" then that's on you. I figure most of my neighbors think along similar lines as I do. But you do you, bless your heart.

 

[HDRider]

If that's how you wish to perceive it. I should have included that I have plenty of popcorn in my response to you. To make it clear to even the densest person, it's me sitting it out and tending to my own business. If you interpret that to mean "me against everyone else" then that's on you. I figure most of my neighbors think along similar lines as I do. But you do you, bless your heart.

I don't speak weasel

 

[JeffreyD]

My own side. The fact that the two sides driving this dysfunction can't find a non-violent answer to their disagreements is their problem and only peripherally mine. Y'all willing to die for your cause, feel free to indulge yourselves.

Understand that one side is far more violent than the other. That side fails when actual fighting happens, and mommy can't help them, so there's that.

 

[JeffreyD]

If that's how you wish to perceive it. I should have included that I have plenty of popcorn in my response to you. To make it clear to even the densest person, it's me sitting it out and tending to my own business. If you interpret that to mean "me against everyone else" then that's on you. I figure most of my neighbors think along similar lines as I do. But you do you, bless your heart.

If we do actually have a civil war, it will eventually come to your doorstep. That's just reality. You have stuff people want during hard times. You will eventually have to defend it.

 

[Mike in Ohio]

I don't speak weasel

For a weasel who doesn't speak weasel you sure spout off enough.

 

[Mike in Ohio]

If we do actually have a civil war, it will eventually come to your doorstep. That's just reality. You have stuff people want during hard times. You will eventually have to defend it.

There's a difference between armies coming to your doorstep and individuals or small groups looting. Most folks in the area are pretty well armed and self sufficient. I'd guess the average length of time folks have lived in the area ranges from ~15 years to their entire lives. I remember one time someone who had lived in the area for 20 years referring to himself as an old timer in the area. My wife's cousin George's wife sniffed and said "When your family has lived here more than 100 years you can refer to yourself as an old timer." It's a fairly tight knit community.

 

[Forcast]

So this is happening troops in Tennessee and Portland. And the Pope is blessing block of ice. Think we are doomed.

 

[frogmammy]

....... If you don't shoot, learn how. Looters won't care about your politics, they will take what they want and destroy anything they can't carry off. .....

So, kinda like your garden variety meth-head?

 

[Mike in Ohio]

....... If you don't shoot, learn how. Looters won't care about your politics, they will take what they want and destroy anything they can't carry off. .....

So, kinda like your garden variety meth-head?

Let me correct what you wrote:


....... If you don't shoot, learn how. Looters won't care about your politics, they will attempt to take what they want and try to destroy anything they can't carry off. .....

So, kinda like your garden variety meth-head?

 

[JeffreyD]

There's a difference between armies coming to your doorstep and individuals or small groups looting. Most folks in the area are pretty well armed and self sufficient. I'd guess the average length of time folks have lived in the area ranges from ~15 years to their entire lives. I remember one time someone who had lived in the area for 20 years referring to himself as an old timer in the area. My wife's cousin George's wife sniffed and said "When your family has lived here more than 100 years you can refer to yourself as an old timer." It's a fairly tight knit community.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[nchobbyfarm]

If that's how you wish to perceive it. I should have included that I have plenty of popcorn in my response to you. To make it clear to even the densest person, it's me sitting it out and tending to my own business. If you interpret that to mean "me against everyone else" then that's on you. I figure most of my neighbors think along similar lines as I do. But you do you, bless your heart.

Sitting it out may not be a choice when the army of one side or the other shows up and demands your stores and conscripts you/yours into their service.

If they will leave us alone, I’d fair much better. Doubt that would happen.

 

[Mike in Ohio]

Sitting it out may not be a choice when the army of one side or the other shows up and demands your stores and conscripts you/yours into their service.

If they will leave us alone, I’d fair much better. Doubt that would happen.

I'm old enough that they won't be conscripting me. As far as stores, what stores? Those other folks that came through last week took em all. I'm kind of thinking regular armies won't waste much time in our area. No major highways close by. No industry to speak of. The single railroad track in the area haven't been used in years since a train derailed in a tunnel a fair ways away damaged the tunnel. Anyone looking to get from one place to another isn't likely to come through here. Like many rural areas, the population skews heavily older. It's the Northern part of Appalachia.

 

[nchobbyfarm]

I'm old enough that they won't be conscripting me. As far as stores, what stores? Those other folks that came through last week took em all. I'm kind of thinking regular armies won't waste much time in our area. No major highways close by. No industry to speak of. The single railroad track in the area haven't been used in years since a train derailed in a tunnel a fair ways away damaged the tunnel. Anyone looking to get from one place to another isn't likely to come through here. Like many rural areas, the population skews heavily older. It's the Northern part of Appalachia.

Ok. Best of luck.

They won’t take your word about the stores. They will look. Sherman taught us everything we needed to know about that. I can still show you signs of their path.