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Can I pee in public now?

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Just a thought on the trans-gender issue. If it's ok for girls in boys bathroom/locker room and visa versa, then there should be no such thing as indecent exposure anymore, hence, we should all just be able to pee in public view now correct?

Seriously. If we're going to be an open society like that, then there should be nothing indecent about exposure.
 
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Yeah... this "situation" is turning into an industrial strength Monkey-Wrench for a lot of situations.

Non-Indecent Exposure should now be aligned with Non-Suggestive Nudity.

In all of this I never knew that there are MANY public places where non-suggestive nudity is totally legal. Check it out, there has to be a suggestive nature for nudity to be illegal here in Florida...
 
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As a professional landscaper I can attest that members of my profession have mastered this ability. It's not so much public as much as it is understanding line of sight.
 
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Even if we just stick to minors for this discussion. If some boy or girl exposes themselves outside of school and gets charged, they're going to lawyer up and probably beat it. If President, a Harvard educated Lawyer, says it's ok in school, then how can it be illegal outside of school.
 
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Just self identify as a dog.

C'mon, that would be insanity, unlike thinking you are the opposite sex. The latter means you are to be celebrated as brave and have laws changed to be in your favor. The former will land you in the loony bin. See the difference?
 
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C'mon, that would be insanity, unlike thinking you are the opposite sex. The latter means you are to be celebrated as brave and have laws changed to be in your favor. The former will land you in the loony bin. See the difference?
I was told my someone supporting transgender rights "no way. That requires s dna change. Not happening". Do you think they managed to get thru school snd not hear about XX and XY? Sad, right?
 
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Sure, pee anywhere you want.
Just don't whine when you're arrested and charged with a crime
Of course they're gonna whine, thats the whole point...they say "If boys can use the girls room, then why can't I??"... Except the policy put out by the Obama admin for schools wasn't 'all boys can use the girls room', it was 'Transgendered kids can use the bathroom they identify as'. Not 'identify' as in 'oh, I just felt like it', the criteria is a little more stringent than that, as the case in Chicago where the kid played on girls sports teams and was passing as a 'girl' for years.
Sure, its weird, no denying that. But it would be also weird to have someone who dressed, acted, and identified as a woman using the mens room.
Its a pretty small percentage of people who would ever fall into this category, so its a lot of bluster from both sides of the issue.
 
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Of course they're gonna whine, thats the whole point...they say "If boys can use the girls room, then why can't I??"... Except the policy put out by the Obama admin for schools wasn't 'all boys can use the girls room', it was 'Transgendered kids can use the bathroom they identify as'. Not 'identify' as in 'oh, I just felt like it', the criteria is a little more stringent than that, as the case in Chicago where the kid played on girls sports teams and was passing as a 'girl' for years.
Sure, its weird, no denying that. But it would be also weird to have someone who dressed, acted, and identified as a woman using the mens room.
Its a pretty small percentage of people who would ever fall into this category, so its a lot of bluster from both sides of the issue.
Please show me a requirement of a doctors note, or a therapist, or a time delay between indentifying and access, or anything that remotely resembles any limitation of any kind.
 
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Please show me a requirement of a doctors note, or a therapist, or a time delay between indentifying and access, or anything that remotely resembles any limitation of any kind.
Don't hold your breath. I've seen nothing that says you can't identify as a female right now and return to identifying as a male an hour later. Which you identify as could be determined by how bad you have to pee and which restroom is closest.
 
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Didn't they make it legal to pee in the streets of New York?
 
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Don't hold your breath. I've seen nothing that says you can't identify as a female right now and return to identifying as a male an hour later. Which you identify as could be determined by how bad you have to pee and which restroom is closest.
You've also seen nothing that says that's true either, but it hasn't stopped anyone from repeating the hype.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-d...s-justice-and-education-release-joint-guidance-help-schools-ensure-civil-rights

At the same time, the guidance makes clear that schools can provide additional privacy options to any student for any reason.

The guidance does not require any student to use shared bathrooms or changing spaces, when, for example, there are other appropriate options available; and schools can also take steps to increase privacy within shared facilities.
This says the school has to be notified before they are treated as transgenders

The Departments interpret Title IX to require that when a student or the student’s parent or guardian, as appropriate, notifies the school administration that the student will assert a gender identity that differs from previous representations or records, the school will begin treating the student consistent with the student’s gender identity. Under Title IX, there is no medical diagnosis or treatment requirement that students must meet as a prerequisite to being treated consistent with their gender identity.6 Because transgender students often are unable to obtain identification documents that reflect their gender identity (e.g., due to restrictions imposed by state or local law in their place of birth or residence),7 requiring students to produce such identification documents in order to treat them consistent with their gender identity may violate Title IX when doing so has the practical effect of limiting or denying students equal access to an educational program or activity.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/file/850986/download
 
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I think Berkley or somewhere up in San Francisco area, they put in open public urinal fountain like statues. The residents in the area are seriously grossed out at what they see!
 
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http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/40005-2/

Urinating and drinking in public would no longer be treated as crimes under a package of bills New York’s City Council will consider to ease enforcement of quality-of-life offenses that lawmakers say clog the courts and have been disproportionately enforced against minorities.


According to the New York Times, one liberal official who sponsored this change noted it was designed to help minorities “reach their full potential.”

Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/40005-2/#ixzz49cxLw78L
 
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Sure, pee anywhere you want.
Just don't whine when you're arrested and charged with a crime
Being stupid has a price
How is this being stupid? What I said about the situation in being a landscaper is very true.
Having to urinate is not a sexual situation. And unfortunately there are no bathroom facilities available when out on a job. Therefore you find a secluded area behind a bush, hopefully out of sight and answers natures call. If in someones anal retentive mind this is somehow related to sexually exposing yourself I question their stability.

Now if I did this on the front lawn facing the street across from a mini mall I could see your point. But for someone who in the last 46 years has been in this situation thousands of times, not to mention the hundreds of men I worked with, the whole scenario of charging someone with a sex crime is what is stupid.

Besides, this is a homesteading forum. A get back to nature kind of place.
so if you are walking in the woods or working way out in the field, and that second cup of coffee suddenly gives you the urge, do you hold it till your teeth are floating and you get back in the house?

I think not.
 
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Didn't they make it legal to pee in the streets of New York?
Yes, but that was only to help drown out the stench of garbage that pervades the city.
Every time I've been to New york the whole place reeked of garbage and urine.
 
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