[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

Agreed. That feature wasn’t really well thought through. I guess it was a holdover from all those double-action revolvers with safeties. Oh… wait…

I always thought a well done decocker was nice, though. The Ruger P Series did it right. The decocker would immediately snap back to ‘fire’, leaving you in D/A.

some of the P series did that they were models with a DC like the P89DC , P90DC , P94DC they had a de-cock only

there was also a DAO set of modles

the P89 , P90 , P94 were a manual safety that decocked and disengaged the trigger from the hammer as well as diverting the firing pin

the Sig 226 and that generation also had a de-cock

taurus had a de-cock and safety option on the 92 and 99
S&W also had de-cock and safety like on the 39 and 59

I am mostly striker fired now for carry guns no safety levers at all , if you can't trust it what's the point alter your procedure and leave the extra steps of taking a safety off away

 

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

there is also another type of hammer fired now , Ruger has a Partial reset double action , the slide resets the hammer to about 2/3 of the way back the trigger moves it the last 1/3 then releases

sort of a take on the LDA light double action

 

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

Walter PPK has that as well. I know someone that had there fire. while de cocking. The firing pin broke and was 2 pieces. Allowing the pin to move back far enough to hit the hammer. Drove it into the broken pin and fired a round. Always de cock in a safe area.

it does happen from time to time , broken firing pin is the culprit

the P85 was recalled Ruger - P85™ Product Safety Warning and Recall Notice
for a very similar issue.

never load a gun in anything but a safe direction , you may need to create that safe direction if you say live in an apartment like 5 gallon pail of sand or sand bags stacked in a corner of the closet
de-cock in a safe direction
never point at anything you don't want shot like people.

 

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

Posted 9/13/21 6:07 A.M. CDST

I told him the brands and models y'all suggested as current era options and the day he saw mine , I also told him that on my 1990s era 469 that with the manual decock I always decocked it aimed at the ground or floor in a safe direction and returning it to up position to be in DA ready with one in the pipe,

He still said he wanted to get a manual style so he could have a thumb up safety if he wanted to put one on safety mode.

tell him to be extra careful with trusting a manual safety.

they click off at the worst of times and are left on at the worst of times

and they are no replacement for a good holster that covers the trigger

cheap floppy nylon isn't a good holster even if it covers the trigger guard

 

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

I don't have much in the way of Leather holsters , a few

my IWB leather I would sweat right through and have salt crystals on the surface of the leather have to let it dry and wipe the salt crystals from the leather with a damp rag
most of my stuff is Kydex , some of it my custom made