Now you will hear people proclaiming over and over they do not know what ANTIFA is.

 

 

Probably wouldn’t know what a woman is, either. Go figure!

 

Chuck Todd was awfully busy defining groups all by his own self for quite a while.

 

Maddow, "... not really a movement"

 

 

Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula
Operates in isolated cells with minimal central oversight; post-2011, it emphasized local autonomy after leadership losses, per U.S. intelligence assessments.

Islamic State (ISIS)
Highly decentralized after 2019 caliphate collapse; provinces function as semi-autonomous cells with ideological alignment but no Baghdad-style central command, as detailed in UN reports.

Hayat Tahrir al-Sham
Compartmentalized into regional factions; lacks a single authoritative leader, with decisions made via shura councils, according to Middle East Institute analyses.

 

About time.

 

 

 

Its a violent, organized, left wing terror organization.

 

How is it funded?

 

When people show up at a specific event dressed the same, using the same type of weapons, implementing a coordinated strategy, and sharing a philosophy, they are an organized group. Being in the US makes them domestic, and their "acts that are intended to (1) intimidate or coerce civilians, or (2) influence government policy by coercion" make them a terrorist organization under Title 18 of the United States Code §2231, part of Chapter 113B.

It took me about 2 minutes to find this information, and these so-called journalists can't find it.

 

AI Overview



The user's statement contains inaccuracies regarding the specific legal definition of domestic terrorism under US federal law. While it correctly identifies key criteria and cites a relevant chapter of the U.S. Code, it incorrectly references section 2231 and omits other necessary elements for a formal designation
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Here is a breakdown of the statement compared to the actual federal definition of domestic terrorism:
Inaccuracies in the user's claim

• Incorrect U.S. Code section: The statement points to Title 18, U.S. Code § 2231. This section deals with "Assault or resistance" related to a search or seizure, not terrorism. The actual federal definition of domestic terrorism is found in Title 18, U.S. Code § 2331(5).
• "Terrorist organization" designation: While the U.S. government can designate foreign terrorist organizations (FTOs), no legal process exists for designating a "domestic terrorist organization". The term "domestic terrorism" is a tool for law enforcement analysis and prosecution, not for formally labeling a group. This means that individuals associated with a domestic group can be charged with a "federal crime of terrorism" if their actions meet the legal criteria, but the group itself is not put on a list like foreign FTOs.

Correct elements of the federal definition
The user's statement correctly highlights several key concepts that are central to the federal legal definition of domestic terrorism under 18 U.S.C. § 2331(5), which outlines three core characteristics:

1. Dangerous, unlawful acts: The activity must "involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State".
2. Intent to intimidate or coerce: The acts must "appear to be intended" to either:
   • "Intimidate or coerce a civilian population."
   • "Influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion."
   • "Affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping."
3. Domestic origin: The actions must "occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States".

Why the distinction is important
The difference between a definition of a crime and a formal designation is critical for constitutional reasons. For domestic groups, the U.S. government and the FBI must respect First Amendment rights, including freedom of speech and association. This means that while law enforcement can investigate a group based on criminal behavior, they cannot investigate a person or group solely for their protected speech or ideology. The label "domestic terrorism" is therefore used to describe the nature of a crime committed by domestic actors, not to formally designate and sanction an organization itself.

 

Then there would be the people who rely on others to deliver pallets of bricks, provide busing, flood ghettos with drugs, stand in crowds and try to lead others into government buildings. What are they called? Oh right, the Feds.

 

or like kirk trying to brainwash the younger kids that terrorism to good.

 

If it's not an organization, what harm is there in declaring it a terrorist organization? It's like declaring Winnie the Pooh a killer bear.

 

And if its not an organization...how do they all show up at the same places? At the same times? Carrying the same Antifa flags and regalia?

 

Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), Industrial Workers of the World (IWW), or Black Lives Matter chapters. These often overlap with Antifa and can lead to invites into Antifa events.

Use It's Going Down to find Antifa events. It’s Going Down is a digital community center for anarchist, anti-fascist, autonomous anti-capitalist and anti-colonial movements. Our mission is to provide a resilient platform to publicize and promote revolutionary theory and action.

Rose City Antifa

Homepage of Rose City Antifa.

www.rosecityantifa.org

Black Cross Health Collective

www.blackcrosscollective.org

CrimethInc. ex-Workers’ Collective: Your ticket to a world free of charge

CrimethInc. is a decentralized network pledged to anonymous collective action. We strive to reinvent our lives and our world according to the principles of self-determination and mutual aid.

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Clubs | WI-JBGC
John Brown Gun Club (JBGC) chapters are normally completely independent from one-another, sometimes functioning within the vacuum of their community. Ideological beliefs may differ from club to club, but the general idea is advocating community self-defense, self-sufficiency, and providing a space for like-minded individuals to pursue firearms education. We do not speak for other chapters.

You do not require any formal permission to start your own JBGC. This list is non-exhaustive, and only uses chapters that have publicly-facing social media pages or who've reached out to us to be included.

TORCH NETWORK

Antifascist Action

torch-antifa.org

 

You Jill, aka Painters wife, are the only one on this forum that ever used those names before you were banned.

 

Why would Antifa get labeled a domestic terrorist group and not all those others?

Who objected?

First you ask why they are being singled out..then you say it doesnt matter because the FBI is investigating them anyway and Trump is just grandstanding.

If being designated a terrorist group doesnt matter, then neither does being singled out.

 

I think Antifa is a militant tool for The Democratic Socialists of America.

It is the largest socialist organization in the United States, with over 80,000 members and chapters in all 50 states. We believe that working people should run both the economy and society democratically to meet human needs, not to make profits for a few.

Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) -

Working towards a better future for all.

www.dsausa.org

 

it would scare you to know what's really going on.

 

 

 

Former Antifa member praises Trump's decision to declare group a domestic terrorist org: 'Long time coming' | Watch

 

 

Antifa has been in the news for years mostly in the PNW. They have a history of attacking right wing groups.

Google Search

 

Ask your AI program how ANTIFA is funded. I asked google and it said AI overview is not available for this search. That's the first time I've seen that statement.

 

The left calls it just an idea, but:
Political leaders in the Netherlands and Hungary are backing proposals to designate Antifa as a terrorist group after U.S. President Donald Trump suggested that he would take such an action in the United States.

“Dutch Parliament votes in favour of my party’s proposition to declare Antifa a terrorist organization,” Thierry Baudet, founder of the Forum for Democracy party, said in a Sept. 19 X post.
“Enough is enough! The violent and criminal terrorist organisation that is Antifa, with chapters all over the world, will finally be OUTLAWED in the Netherlands. This is just the beginning

 

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