I guess I'm doing ok, here is how my list looks:

#6. Coleman Fuel- Don't need

#18. Coleman Mantles- Don't need

#19. Baby Supplies- I don't have small babies but I do have a small supply of cloth diapers a couple of gowns and socks and some sample packages of various baby needs. Also have sample packages of formula, I rotate by donating every so often.

#34. Coleman Pump Repair Kit- Don't have, not sure what it is, lol.

#40. Big Dogs and food- Don't have but I think I need one

#93. Cigarrettes- Have none, but I do have a few tins of pipe tobacco.

#100. Livestock- I have chickens and quail. Can't have much more than that except rabbits.

Now the question is, do I have ENOUGH of all of this stuff, probably not. Some items I have over a year's supply, others a month or two at most. The most important things like food, water, wood, I have over a years supply and have a good supply of ammo which we are always adding to.

 

I printed the list and went thru it like a test...

8 items don't apply(won't buy a genny, etc)
57 covered

so, 35 needs addressed and some of those I have some, but want to stock more(like duct tape, fabrics, rodent control...)

I printed the list out like it is a shopping list to take with me as I shop..add something every trip! Thanks Ernie; read it before but good exercise-reminder!

 

Toothbrushes, toothpaste, floss, baking soda, hydrogen peroxide. Strike anywhere and book matches. Probably a jug or two of bleach on hand may come in useful.

 

Oh yeah!

Forgot to add, right under livestock you better add "livestock feed"!

And pet food(cats too)not just large dogs.....

Seems to me this is what happenned the last time this list was posted..all the "add-ons"....

 

http://dchandguninfo.livejournal.com/121149.html

Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy…target of thieves; maintenance etc.)We have one. Too expensive to have two.
2. Water Filters/Purifiers Have the countertop Berkey, filters and water tablets.
3. Portable ToiletsHave several of the Luggable Loo buckets, trash bags to fit, baby wipes.
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 – 12 months to become dried, for home uses.No woodstove yet. Do have a 3 month supply of seasoned wood and kindling.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)We don't use lamps. Use solar and LEDs.
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.We stock propane instead.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.This is a rural community where 1 in 3 are outdoor hunters. You don't come inside uninvited.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.Have all we need and enough to share.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugarWe don't add salt/sugar to anything. It's already included as a mix or we do without.
10. Rice – Beans – WheatNo rice and no wheat. All our prep foods are in a can, jar or sealed bag/box. Have 3 years worth of garden seeds and lots of garden tools.

There's the to ten. Follow the link for more.

And sorry to mess up your post, but it helped me to see where holes are in my preps, but they're not really holes for us as we tend to live a different lifestyle during emergencies from what other folks do.

 

It's in the Vault, but always good to refresh our memories.
http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=198389
Matt

 

Just some thoughts on this list of stuff. I'll just hit on a few that really stuck out to me.

Portable toilets - With a septic system this wouldn't be needed. Composting toilets aren't usually cheap and would probably fill up quickly meaning you still have to deal with disposal of the poo.

Charcoil - Isn't needed (can cook over wood), but would be nice to have.

Water containers - Why only clear? I've heard that the sun can kill some germs, but at the same time promote alage growth (bleach will solve this, but it'd also solve the germ problem in colored containers)

Babywipes - Great for "bathing" and getting cleaned up.

Tuna - Why in oil?

Disposable dishware - In a long term setting this wouldn't be good. You'll quickly go through it, and then have all of the trash to deal with.

BoyScout Handbook - Get an older one. The newer ones are getting away from outdoors skills. I don't remember which addition I have, but I remember I was on my way out of scouting when the next edition came out and to me it was absolute garbage. Get something from the mid-late 90s or older. The junky ones should be from the late 90s into sometime after 2000.

I some of these could be combined. It could probably be trimmed down to about 80-90 things.

 

My opinion on the tuna in oil..it is for the fat calories in the oil..fats are needed in the diet and hard to comeby in an emergency diet..look up "rabbit starvation" where you can have an endless supply of rabbits and still die due to lack of fats. Nuts are another good choice just for this reason.

 

Yup - tuna in oil is for the extra calories. An adult male doing hard physical labor can easily burn 4-6,000 calories a day. Just finished reading "Farmer Boy" to my daughter and it was very detailed on what they ate for meals and it was a HUGE amount.

 

Back when that list was originally written, tuna was probably a good choice, but today much (all?) of the tuna is contaminated with mercury. IIRC don't they recommend an adult not eat more than 1 can a month and even less for children?

I think there are better ways to add fats to the diet than ingesting a lot of mercury to get it. Our ancestors did not have canned tuna and they found ways to get all the fats they need. Today people have forgotten how to render lard from butchered hogs, oils in ducks, and other animals, and lets not forget good ol' butter is easily made from either goat or cow milk. I think bear grease used to be highly valued too. If nothing else, stock cans of crisco, bottles of olive oil, and/or other long lasting oils. You can often buy lard from the butcher shop.

 

I looked at the list and thought, "Hey, we're doing okay!"

We don't have #1 - the generator - I can't imagine why we would ever need one.

 

Agreed, CF...... a generator would be fun for those precious few weeks or so, but better learn how to live without it.

 

I nixed the generator a long time ago because of the "noise invitation to investigate..."

 

Just had to check--is that what the neighbors are going to steal from me first, or what I need to stock up on. Need to buy some stuff from Lehman's.

Lots of work needed. Sigh.

 

Thanks Ernie. Got the generator and most everything else, but need to order a Big Berkey. I've been putting it off as they're so expensive, but better get it ordered.

 

I've got a generator, but its purpose is mainly to fill some other holes in my preps. It is not a long-term solution, nor is it intended to be.

However, an understanding of the basics of electrical power generation and a large supply of spare parts to choose from will prevent you from ANY need to ever do without electricity in your life. Ben Franklin discovered it without the need for the industrial power grid. Thomas Edison found practical ways to use it without the need for the industrial power grid. There's simply no need for the tinkering homesteader to ever do without it again, at least on a small scale.

 

Geez, more homework ;-)

 

Wow what a great list and we are full of holes here, but this is going to give me something to kind of go by. Thanks

 

Yes the cheapy generators running at 3600rpm are screamers...........

The better the gen the quieter.........
The inverter gen's are very quiet.......
And with a little thought you can make a dog house to fit over and sound proff a gen.......

So please don't put all generators into the "one size fits all".........
It just ain't true...........

 

From the one who's husband drags all abandoned mechanical things home. (((The generator that can run an entire city block and has to be loaded on a flatbed with some kind of big hi-lo.))) The Generator will run the freezers until I get all the meat canned.

 

I envision the generator as means to run things for a limited time, like a welder and power tools. No intentions just to fire up the generator, run it constantly and try to use it in lieu of the grid.

 

11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)We have pigs and dairy cows, so I’d have more lard and butter and a lot less vegetable oil.
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog.Wouldn’t have both - rather redundant since #17 is a Survival Guide Book.
34. Coleman’s Pump Repair Kit, and # 6 Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much. Won't use= will stick to regular kerosene and lanterns - easier to acquire and cheaper. In a pinch, you can even make a grease or lard lamp for light.
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item). Won't use as I don’t use the small propane cylinders --- very expensive for the very small amt of propane you get.
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.) - I don’t classify this as an “urgent” need. You can burn paper, cardboard, and dried pieces of wood.
78. “Survival-in-a-Can” *
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit [/I](MANCO) *
*I have no idea with either of those are, but I can make window quilts to custom fit all of my windows virtually for free.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.) I must disagree -- mantles are VERY expensive, and when they’re broken or worn out, that’s it for them. I prefer to stick to plain old Kerosene lamps, where I can get significant amounts of wicks for the price of one mantle.
93. Cigarettes -- don’t need - we are very rural, and nobody out here smokes.
21. cookstoves -- have three woodburning stoves and a fire pit outside.
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly). Don’t need/want - matches, a small bit of paper or kindling will take care of starting a fire without worrying about storing combustible liquids.

It would be interesting to see what the list would have looked like if it was presented in the order of importance. I sure wouldn’t have had canning supplies as #62 and seeds as #32. I think I'd also add in the box set of Little House on the Prairie books as they have ALOT of useful information.

 

I printed this out too about a month ago, it is a great food for thought, I keep it in a little pocket of my purse for when I have a little extra money to spend on preps..."where would this be a good investment, what am i missing?"

 

ugh. Too many holes, and no money...

 

I've got a generator, but its purpose is mainly to fill some other holes in my preps. It is not a long-term solution, nor is it intended to be.

However, an understanding of the basics of electrical power generation and a large supply of spare parts to choose from will prevent you from ANY need to ever do without electricity in your life. Ben Franklin discovered it without the need for the industrial power grid. Thomas Edison found practical ways to use it without the need for the industrial power grid. There's simply no need for the tinkering homesteader to ever do without it again, at least on a small scale.

OK, please elaborate. Not trying to be dense, are you refering to solar, wind? Agree on the generator, it is used for storms, not a long term solution.

Jim-mi, same thought, care to elaborate a little on the inverter generators?

I have googled so much I probably have made lots of lists. *shrugs*