Homeland security is buying a lot of it.

 

Nope, not just Texas.
We can get it at the gun Shop for twice the normal amount, but Wally world and Cabelas never have any. According to the guys in that department (both places), you literally have to be there when it goes on the shelves, or you can forget it.

 

I swear, it must just be Texas. My son and son-in-law say the same thing.

No, you go online with companies from all over the country and they're mostly out.
I can get up to 5 boxes (50 rounds each) when I go to shoot targets, but that's it, and sometime they are out of certain calibers for a week or so.

 

Because people are still buying it up. The run isn't over yet. Ammo companies are running some major overtime but still can't keep up. Many are asking why they don't just expand their operation - well because when the run is over, they would have to shut it back down and fire everyone - not cost effective. So they do the best they can and wait for things to normalize. It isn't just Texas - I have relatives in LA fussing about it too and there are enough articles in mags and things on FB to make me think it is still fairly common everywhere.

Right now there is kind of an odd mix going on. The stores selling at only slightly elevated prices generally limit one box per person per day and they still have bare shelves so you have to walk in at just the right time. There are actually whole websites and fb pages dedicated to alerting folks when something comes in stock. Then there are stores that are charging outrageous prices - they have lots on the shelves - but few people are desperate enough to pay it. Some online stores have relatively decent prices but are limiting to one box so when you figure shipping it becomes outrageous (i.e. Cabelas). Some stores don't limit you but they will post something and then sell out before you can blink.

Personally, I have become a total stalker on sites like ammoseek and gunbot. Because when something hits the list (like 22lr for 7 cents per rnd) it will be gone in literally minutes. Yesterday I literally lost what was in my cart in the time it took to register so I could buy. They didn't let me checkout as a guest. Soooooooo frustrating!

We reload for our carry guns, but we love to play shooting games with the kids and use 22lr for that stuff and we are running very very low.

 

try and get powder or primers powder valley one of the larger onlune powder suppliers , looks like they must be having a very slow shipping month every product powder , caps , primers , bullets , brass all out of stock

commertial hunting ammo is making it back to the shelf here , you can buy 30-06 and 7mm and 270 , 243 and such now but people tend to shot maybe 20 rounds of that a year .

even seen a little 223 hit the shelf

but 22lr , still nothing

when will the market not be able to absorb the ammo manufactured , when every guy with 25 bucks in his wallet feels like he has a life time supply of 22lr

 

Luckily we had lots of reloading stuff. I am hoping by the time we run out, things will be back to normal. We saw powder on the shelf last weekend but didn't check the price since we didn't need any. I did notice small pistol primers where 44.99 for 1000 and they have had those in stock for several weeks running so that is a good sign.

 

but at 34.99 i bet they would be gone in a few days at 29.99 a day

I got some primers a while back

part of it is when the prices started rising on a box of primers many said well lets order a case from the online place and get 10k each

think about it this way , if the DHS has ordered 3 rounds per every man woman and child , think of what the shooting public has , and is putting away every day.

 

I know walmart does get shipments of 22LR but it is bought right away because they did not raise their prices. I was at Walmart last week and they had four boxes of 22 mag, I bought three and the guy said that they had 20 boxes an hour before I got there. I asked about 22lr and he said he stocked "a bunch" and it was all gone in 20 minutes

 

Just scored 1500 22lr for 11 cents per round. It's really sad that I am happy about that. But since 22lr has become rare as rockin horse turds, I am actually pretty stoked.

 

You payed $165 for 1500 .22 rounds? Wow! I'm glad I was stocked.

 

LOL - I know. Sickening. And I had to hunt for days to pull that off.

 

I gave my sister a box a couple of weeks ago, as she couldn't find any. She was all like kissing me and stuff, I think I understand now

 

This website searches online for the best price.
http://www.gunbot.net/

 

Part of the problem is hoarders that don't understand when they have enough. I've literally heard a guy say at the cabelas here, "when are you getting bricks (of 22)...... i only have ten bricks right now.....I want about ten more."
That's 5000 rounds of 22lr. It's an all day event for one guy to blow off one brick, heck it's an all day affair for 20 Marines to pop off 20,000 rounds of 50 cal from a couple of ma deuces. If you have ten bricks you don't need to be trying get another ten, just replace them as you use them until things get back to normal.

 

Part of the problem is hoarders that don't understand when they have enough. I've literally heard a guy say at the cabelas here, "when are you getting bricks (of 22)...... i only have ten bricks right now.....I want about ten more."

when will the market not be able to absorb the ammo manufactured , when every guy with 25 bucks in his wallet feels like he has a life time supply of 22lr

for a long time the survival boards have been saying stock up on 22lr , one day it may even be the currency , people finally listened all at once the first time they couldn't get it.

actually it was not in great supply for the past 5 years , but you could alwasy get some , just maybe not your brand at the standard price

cci blazer was one of these , Farm and Fleet held the price at 19.95 a brick the boxes would be gone within a day or two of being stocked , it was great ammo tht fed in almost everything and 4 cents a round.

convenience makes people take things for granted , cold beer is an example , most places in the US you can buy a cold beer at a convenience store form roughly 9am to 9pm with some variation , but lets say one day you couldn't buy cold beer , well the rush of people to stock up on warm beer and buy a spare fridge for the garage would be overwhelming , cause what would you do if a cold beer want easily available.

one of the fastest ways to get people to want more of somthing is to tell them they can only have X amount at a time , gas is an example of this tell everyone 5 gallons per purchase and you will have them filling their cars every time they get to half a tank and they will be waiting in lines to get it. have a steady supply of gas and the majority will be under a 1/4 before they fill their tank and no lines will exist.

when you draw attention to something people fixate on it , logic is gone and they have to have it.

 

You can never have too much ammo or too many magazines.

 

Saw this on the Remington site a while back.

The Remington plant in Arkansas annouced a 30 million dollar new plant to make ammo to try to keep up with demand, ready in a year.

Our local wal mart has a sign up on the ammo shelves. It list the delivery day the shelves could be stocked. It says in big letters to be there and if your late don't ask.
The sell it right out of the shipping box. Local gun shop has kept prices the same as they were but they also limit you to so many rounds so the next guy can buy some. Don't even try to buy a box and then go back a couple hours latter to buy another one. They remember who bought today.
As long as people will pay the crazy prices like 11 cents a shot that is what they will sell it for. If people do not buy due to stupid prices it sets till the price comes down.

We can still buy most shot gun shells off the shelf, Most reloading powder and bullets are on shelves also. Some times the large rifle and pistol primers are all gone but next week they will have more and you are limited on the amount there too.
The local gun shop really does try to keep every one shooting a bit at least instead of letting horders and scalpers to buy every thing.

Al

 

This website searches online for the best price.
http://www.gunbot.net/

ammoseek is good too and it catches some things gunbot misses. If you check both of them regularly you have a decent chance of finding something.

 

I get most of my ammo mail order and pretty much everything I've ordered has come in. Some has come very quickly and at pretty good prices. Then yesterday I was in a gun store and they had 7.62 X 51, 7.62 X 39, 5.56 X 45m .45 ACP FMJ, 9MM FMJ, and .40 S&W FMj by the thousands of rounds at quite good prices. Federal, MagTec and Fiocchi mostly. Guess it just depends on where you look. A certain amount of persistence seems to be required. The only thing I'm waiting on at the moment is some .338 Winchester magnum and 5,000 rounds of .22 that I ordered from CMP.

 

There have been no ammunition shortages in our area for quite awhile. Prices are higher than they were 5 years ago but the three gun shops I purchase my ammo from stock plenty for regular customers as well as the LEOs.

The shop I prefer to purchase from in addition to being a bit lower priced also offers a NRA membership card discount of 10%.

As far as the cheaper questionable quality off brand ammo available at places like WM I wouldn't know as I steer wide and clear of those big box store places for my ammunition.

 

I was at the gun store Wednesday, they are out-of-stock. Word is that most retailers in this area are out-of-stock.

 

Olympic quality match 22 ammo is and has been $19.00 per box of 50, hordes are even getting into that market.

 

I've found 22's and other ammo at wal mart. It doesnmt last long, but I just check when I'm in. several times I've found it still on pallets waiting to be stocked, the counter people at sporting goods didnt even know it was there until I pointed it out. They were happy to get it out, but it doesnt make it to the shelves generally, it sells before they get it that far. Prices have been "normal" for the most part at wal mart. one local shop has been fairly well stocked all along, with a few gaps in their stock. Prices have been close to normal, unless they couldnt find things at regular prices.

I've bought a little 22 for myself, and a bit for others that couldnt find it, same for pistol ammo. I reload most that I shoot though. Reloading supplies seem to be getting a bit better over time.

Homeland security is buying a lot of it.

Whatever homeland security is buying (or contracted to buy) is a drop in the bucket compared to commercial supplies and demand.

 

The shop I trade at had CCI .22lr hollow points for $8.60 per hundred count box today and I picked up three boxes while picking up some .38 snake shot loads to replace the ones I used the last couple weeks as the snakes started heading to the high ground around my house during the flooding.

 

the reason there is a shortage has a lot to do with homeland security. they not to long ago ordered 1.6 billion rounds of ammo. very recently ordered 1.4 billion more rounds. so ammo manufacturers are working for the gov't right now. http://www.humanevents.com/2013/02/...3/02/16/homeland-security-now-armed-with-enough-ammo-for-24-year-long-iraq-war/