[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

I guess I thought they were a few who would rather be represented by the sane gun owners instead of the nuts. The crazies who think it is a good idea to strap an AR-15 to your back and go to the park, or the teen who wants to go out with a bang and be immortalized or the fools who thought aiming weapons at
federal agents was a good idea, these are the people you wish to represent you, so be it.

For the record your arguments about giving an inch they take an arm is so misguided and lame. Has not happened and will not happen, but you keep using it if it makes you all happy

there are some really good reasons for strapping on a AR15 and going for a walk in the park , the first and most common is to prove that it is still legal

people need to know that possession of a gun is not illegal nor is carrying it , It becomes an Illegal act when you start threatening behavior.

we in no way endorse those who plan to do others harm , quite the contrary I would like to buy the person who stops them a fresh box of carry ammo

like the Aurora shooter the most recent shooter in Santa Barbra passed the background check a California back ground check which would mean max of 10 rounds , California approved guns only , and what are the toughest gun control laws in the country and not once but 3 times


when you are talking people smart enough to keep up grades to stay in college for years and hide their motives from their room mates whom he planned to murder , any phyc test would have been a breeze , the police were even at his house in April for a welfare check and he convinced them all was fine he had planned this for over a year

he then proceed to drive around town killing people with no one stopping him

how do you purpose that a background check that didn't keep tens of millions of good honest people from being denied the purchase of a firearm that they would go on to use to defend their families and prevent crime , intelligent criminals will find a way to kill if that is their goal

the final check and balance is an armed public as a public we need to take the responsibility for making our world a better place that means getting trained , getting armed and remaining vigilant.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

do not sit idly wringing your hands with how you could legislate against evil ,be he who stands against evil ,be the one who makes the difference , all the law and paper in the world will not prevent evil , but you good people can stop it in it's tracks when it shows it's evil face.

 

[simi-steading]

For the record your arguments about giving an inch they take an arm is so misguided and lame. Has not happened and will not happen, but you keep using it if it makes you all happy

REALLY!?!?!! Not happened???

As of now, some people can't even own a .22 because the tube on it holds more than 10 rounds... That's a mile in my eyes..

You have to be stupid rich to now own a fully automatic weapon... Partly because of restrictions they put on them as to the date of manufacture, the other reason that you have to apply for a tax stamp... It's a hassle and a hoop, and that's what the government wants..

and before you say people don't need more than 10 shots, or a fully auto weapon. think about what the second amendment is all about. Protecting our selves from a tyrannical government.. We're outgunned by our government, and that was the idea of the second.. to make sure we could outgun them... Think cold war..

Any more, the tables are tipped, and our government is running all over the top of us.. .They keep taking.. and before long, ,you're gonna look up and our flag will change from red white and blue to strictly red...

 

[Ozarks Tom]

I guess I thought they were a few who would rather be represented by the sane gun owners instead of the nuts. The crazies who think it is a good idea to strap an AR-15 to your back and go to the park, or the teen who wants to go out with a bang and be immortalized or the fools who thought aiming weapons at
federal agents was a good idea, these are the people you wish to represent you, so be it.

For the record your arguments about giving an inch they take an arm is so misguided and lame. Has not happened and will not happen, but you keep using it if it makes you all happy

Funny, your original post was asking for reasoned thought. Didn't spot it for trolling, but should have.

 

[unregistered41671]

Libs are the same the world over, even if they claim to own and shoot guns.

 

[Cookie2]

I will point out that the college kid that drove around Santa Barbara running over people, stabbing them and then shooting three of them, was doing all this in a "gun-free zone" and lived in a county where the sheriff refuses to issue concealed carry permits to anyone.

In every instance of mass shootings, there were no "good guys with a gun" there to stop the shooter from doing more damage.

 

[Sam Boggs]

The largest mass murder's in history was done with Zyklon B.
Sam

 

[GunMonkeyIntl]

The largest mass murder's in history was done with Zyklon B.
Sam

Not true.
Look at what Stalin did just by deciding who had a "right" to some of the potatoes and who didn't.
The worst mass-murders in history have always been conducted with the same simple instrument: control.

 

[JJ Grandits]

That's all our liberal friends want.

 

[Jolly]

I haven't lived in the state in which my 1 and only arrest was for over a decade.

What I would like to understand is how a minor drug charge over 20 years ago makes me a danger to the public and I should forever until I die be prohibited from owning a gun.

However, I am allowed to own chainsaws, knives, large rocks, and cars, all extremely dangerous if used incorrectly.

Tell me how the the "if you are a felon you cannot own guns" makes any sense?

I'm more politically conservative than most. But wrapped up in that conservatism is also a belief in redemption. I firmly believe that when a person pays his dues to society, he should have all the rights of any other citizen.

That doesn't say penalties shouldn't be harsh or swiftly enforced. Just that when a penalty has been served, no residue should exist.

 

[watcher]

I can not see why any person who has been convicted of a non violent felony should lose their right to be armed. When you pay your price to society, you paided your price. When you are again a free citizen, you are a FREE citizen.

As a convicted person you have already shown a tendency to ignore the law. That makes you a less trustable, for lack of a better term, person. Think about this. If you can prove that you have turned your life around you can apply to have your rights reinstated.

 

[watcher]

Ok I didn't read all the post, too many and too little time tonight but. . .

No right is 100%. Your right to free speech is limited by slander, and other, laws because your the right to free speech ends when it results in the damage to others.

Now when it comes to weapons, IMO, citizens should have free access and the freedom to carry any weapon any law enforcement agency has access to. We should also have that same access and freedom for any small arm the military has. We should have very little limits on any other weapons and/or weapon systems the military has. Money is going to limit how many people can own and operate a main battle tank.

 

[StL.Ed]

... Money is going to limit how many people can own and operate a main battle tank.

But, if you're interested, there is an auction coming up in July
Not your usual auction — tanks, a missile launcher, armored personnel carriers up for sale.
http://blog.sfgate.com/topdown/2014...ion-tanks-a-missile-launcher-armored-personnel-carriers-up-for-sale/#21425101=0

:grin:

 

[PrettyPaisley]

You strap a gun to your back and walk around the park for the same reason I stuck a baby on my boob and walked around a park. Because we are so freaked out by what should be NORMAL in society somebody with some courage has to do something to shake up the zombies. You may fear a responsible gun owner the same way someone else fears a well nourished baby - but that is something *you* must work through if you value your freedom.

 

[poorboy]

We already have unconstitutional gun laws, we don't need more..."shall not be infringed" has already happened...maybe we need to chuck the whole constitution(that's sarcasm for the obtuse)

 

[Cornhusker]

For the record your arguments about giving an inch they take an arm is so misguided and lame. Has not happened and will not happen, but you keep using it if it makes you all happy

It hasn't happened here...yet
England, Australia and I believe Canada has faced confiscation preceded by registration.
I'm sure there are other countries

 

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

you know the interesting thing , Canada spent many billions of dollars on a 20 some year run of long gun registry , then abandoned it recently it because it didn't work it didn't change crime


as a matter of fact almost every state sponsored genocide in the past hundred years started with a commonsense registration , then a confiscation , then the eradication of a ethnic, religions or political group.

 

[Allen W]

The individual who committed this crime was a very mentally disturbed individual who could have killed and injured just as many people by driving his car into a crowd.

WHY do we continually focus on the GUN and not the PERSON pulling the trigger?

I don't believe their was any thing on this young mans record that would have prevented him from buying a gun, but I haven't kept up with this case real good either.

 

[Glade Runner]

I guess I thought they were a few who would rather be represented by the sane gun owners instead of the nuts. The crazies who think it is a good idea to strap an AR-15 to your back and go to the park, or the teen who wants to go out with a bang and be immortalized or the fools who thought aiming weapons at
federal agents was a good idea, these are the people you wish to represent you, so be it.

For the record your arguments about giving an inch they take an arm is so misguided and lame. Has not happened and will not happen, but you keep using it if it makes you all happy

Yeah, I wondered how long it would take for the hardcore lefty to come out. You need to take your trolling back to Politics where your Marxist inclinations are well known. Knew this was bogus as soon as you posted.

 

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

I read a very interesting Article that was printed in a normally very anti gun rag although this was apparently a nationally distributed writer that each paper just put a different picture with the article , they were of course asking why as a culture we would let a tiny minority of mentally disturbed people hold us hostage

they were getting at the idea while people are going around deciding what things caused this wacko or that wacko to commit murderous acts

the fingers have been pointed at the movies , the aurora co shooter apparently thought he was the joker or something and dyed his hair orange and made booby traps in his apartment inline with the Joker character

the Santa Barbra shooter was apparently frustrated by not getting the girl like in some movies and tv shows they cited

apparently blame was put on violent video games for another mass shooter

they went on to say is that the masses shouldn't be punished for what makes a tiny minority of mentally disturbed people go off


the writer is making the great argument for why we shouldn't alter culture then falls deeply into hypocrisy when he starts into how controlling guns needs to be addressed while of course completely forgetting that California is one of the most regulated states with 10 day waiting periods for handguns , registration , as one other poster pointed out if you purchased a legal gun in CA the cops have almost instant access to make model serial number date of purchase and yet they fail to see that the Santa Barbra shooter passed this not once but 3 times waiting 10 days each time to get his guns , the the restrictions they want to impose on the whole country do not work so why in an epic move of hypocrisy would you suggest that popular media culture shouldn't be held hostage yet constitutionally protected right to arms of defense and right to a defense culture should be.

here is a link to the article http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinio...nion/mass-killers-hold-culture--and-country--hostage-b99280707z1-261313281.html

 

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