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Recently I read the instructions in CountrySide magazine on how to build a PVC well bucket. Got excited but after reading the materials list verses the assembly instructions I became really lost. So I read them two times more with the same outcome. Either mistakes were made on the way to print or I'm really getting old and loosing my mechanical abilities. I feel without instructions I could build one, I understand the physical concepts behind the water retrieving device, however I would rather not waste precious money experimenting. Does anyone have simple plans that they are willing to share with me??? Also keep in mind that my water supply is only four to six feet below ground level and the diameter of my hole is approx. five inches wide. Besides using a well bucket does anyone else have a better method of retrieving small quantities (two gallon per dip) of H2O from this size hole. Electrical power is not an option....Thanks folks for any responses..
Tennessee John
Monterey, Tennessee
 
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I have a copy of Countryside's "The Country Water Supply". In it are patterns for a simple well bucket and a very simple hand pump. I don't know if I can explain well or not, but I'll try.

The well bucket is made from PVC small enough to fit the hole into your well. It says to make it small enough to go past the pump. They use a 3' length of 3" pipe. drill holes in the top for a handle. The bottom isn't clear to me, so I can't really explain it. My thought from the pictures -- use the flap that goes in the comode to open and let in water and close to keep it from running out. You need a reducer on the bottom for this flap to catch in. As the bucket goes down, the flap opens to let water in. on the up stroke, the flap closes to hold in the water.

The well pump is a piece of pvc pipe the a hose attached to the top and a "foot valve" (I am assuming from a water pump) is attached to the bottom. 3/4 inch pipe is used as a sleeve to guide over the 1/2 inch pump. a small hole is drilled above the foot valve but below the frost level so water will leak out of the pump and not freeze in it and the pump can be left in the well.

I would suggest getting the book. It has a lot more information in it. Including how to get your cow to pump your water!!! Hope this helps.
 
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Reminds me of going out every morning with grandma to draw water. I still have her metal "well bucket" in the shed on mom's place. The sound of drawing that chain, hand over hand over the pully, pulling the ring and releasing the water into a bucket. Ahhhh, memories! They got indoor plumbing in '59.
 
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topside1 said:
Recently I read the instructions in CountrySide magazine on how to build a PVC well bucket. Got excited but after reading the materials list verses the assembly instructions I became really lost. So I read them two times more with the same outcome. Either mistakes were made on the way to print or I'm really getting old and loosing my mechanical abilities. I feel without instructions I could build one, I understand the physical concepts behind the water retrieving device, however I would rather not waste precious money experimenting. Does anyone have simple plans that they are willing to share with me??? Also keep in mind that my water supply is only four to six feet below ground level and the diameter of my hole is approx. five inches wide. Besides using a well bucket does anyone else have a better method of retrieving small quantities (two gallon per dip) of H2O from this size hole. Electrical power is not an option....Thanks folks for any responses..
Tennessee John
Monterey, Tennessee
P.S., just wanted to say 2 gallons a dip and your getting close to 20 lbs each pull... depends on how deep your well is, but if you are pulling by hand and don't have a pulley-winch, that might get a bit tiring.

Make it 1 gallon and let the kids do it!
 
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topside1 said:
Recently I read the instructions in CountrySide magazine on how to build a PVC well bucket. Got excited but after reading the materials list verses the assembly instructions I became really lost. So I read them two times more with the same outcome.
Thank goodness I am not the only one, I thought I was just retarded after I read it as I wanted to make one and did not hardly know where to start could not follow the instructions,I had decided I would have to buy one some time.
 
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Dubai Vol said:
Almost. Here's the one you want:
A proper hand pump
That is awfully cheap and made in China I bet it wears out quickly if it even works, surely their are ones taht are costlier but will last longer? I remember seeing some simple homemade pumps made for shallow wells by the peace corps in my travels and they utilized PVC wish I new more.
 
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Dubai Vol said:
Almost. Here's the one you want:
A proper hand pump
That is awfully cheap and made in China I bet it wears out quickly if it even works, surely their are ones that are costlier but will last longer? I remember seeing some simple homemade pumps made for shallow wells by the peace corps in my travels and they utilized PVC wish I new more. here is a simple one for deeper wells http://www.geocities.com/h2oclubs/

and the website it came from http://www.geocities.com/h2oclubs/index.html

or to buy them look here I like em but I bet shipping is a lot http://www.nzpump.co.nz/village-pump.html

now here are some really nice ones guess you get what you pay for.
http://www.survivalunlimited.com/handwaterpumpshallow.htm
looks easy to install even a mindless twit like myself could do it, I found the latter part interesting did not know that.
quote Fast installation with any pitcher pump: Screw on drop-pipe 20'-30' long, slip into well and bolt down. Our 20' pumps may or may not pull water from more than 20' from pump (Most units designed for 20' but we now have a pump that will pump from 24' - use 30'-40' drop pipe). The length of the pipe does not make the pumping any different, only the level of the water.quote)
If you just want something simple and cheap that will work better than the crap you buy made in China from harbor freight see these
TECHNOLOGIES DEMONSTRATED AT ECHO: PVC HAND PUMPS
those are what I think I saw in my travels guess you cant buy them anywhere as they are to cheap to make though probably over my mechanical ability to do. I suppose you could buy a nice one here http://www.tifac.org.in/offer/tsw/malay6.htm

to bad so much good small scale technology is not readily available in the USA where most everyone uses big machinery here in Kosovo there are little cheap tractors that are like giant tillers and are used for everything from plowing to hauling cows to a wagon taxi service. They run on little gas and are only around 500 euro to buy, they are everywhere the soliders call them Kosovo harleys
Ok I saved one of the best for last and I hate to say it but it comes from an inventor in Ohio http://www.thefarm.org/charities/i4at/surv/handpump.htm
 
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Thanks everyone for the helpful advice and please keep it coming. This is not a drilled well it is some sort of natural oddity just a hole in the ground like a ground hog may have dug, hope he knew how to tread water. I'm like to re-mention that you only go four feet down and your wet, go another 35 feet and you hit bottom. I will persue one of your ideas and would rather not go mechanical that's why the PVC well bucket looks promising. JNAP glad to hear I’m not loosing my marbles those instructions were a mess....
Tennessee John
 
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One more thing using pitcher type mechanical pumps would require some form of mounting pole which would require digging. If the water lies underground as a small pond dugging would not be prudent. I'm also trying to save money at the same time, this device would only be used during extreme hardtimes...thanks
 
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my well is 260 feet deep, I can see setting up a rig over the hole to spool the rope, and 260 feet is alot of rope.....

pulling 2 gal of water, hoping the line doesnt snap and block the well.

I have a small generator stashed to hook up the pump if I ever permenently loose power. a quart of gas would [in theory] pump alot of water into storage drums.

which is interesting, because yesterday my burried pressure tank burst and now I have a 4 ft deep mudhole beside a 4 foot deep wellhead (some numbnut who drilled it sank a steel barrel in the ground and backfilled the yard level, so the well head is 4 feet down at the bottom of the barrel... its nuts...] . this means i have no water, because the leak flows over and will fill up the hole the wellhead is in... and that will wash mud down the pipe.

so... I have to excivate by hand a hole big enough to bury a horse...

i was thinking yesterday i should build a shed over the finished pit, and about well buckets, cranks wiches and the like....

you dont miss water till you dont have it.
lol
 
#16 ·
You can buy a foot valve at any hardware store that carries plumbing supplies. Just glue it to the bottom of a piece of pvc the right diameter. Put a handle on the top end and you should be good to go. You may need to reduce the bottom of the pipe to fit your valve, but that should not pose a problem.