http://www.seedquest.com/news.php?type=news&id_article=16690&id_region=&id_category=&id_crop=

Will help explain it.

But if you are "in to" alarmist propaganda, this is for you:
http://www.globalchange.com/geneticengin.htm

Amazing what you can find on the internet. If it is on the internet, it must be true.....

 

I'm not into gmo stuff but I have no problem with those who choose to grow and consume it...until it interferes with my ability to grow and consume non-GMO varieties. Thats when we have a problem.

 

Didnt say a word about being am alarmist, but I do feel they are playing God here.

IMO. some things should be left alone. Make that most things.

 

I think they should make it a law that the only cat that you could own was those glow in the dark cats.

 

I think they should make it a law that the only cat that you could own was those glow in the dark cats.

It would make it easy to hunt em in the dark, wouldn't it?

 

I hope others wise up the way you have and quickly.
The ongoings of Monsanto and Dow is frightening and if we continue on this path it's pretty much certain going to be our undoing.

 

Alarmist? Please. The dangers of GMO are pretty darn clear. I mean, why risk it?

 

My DS just took a post doctorate position with the USDA in South Dakota- he'll be studying the effects of GMO's on insects. So soon, we'll know the true story......eep:

 

The dangers of GMO are pretty darn clear.

And yet the only "proof" is junk science and alarmist rhetoric.
Show us this "clear danger"

 

The deer, elk, moose and bears that graze on my gm canola the evening after it is sprayed with glyphosate seem to be doing quite well. In fact, I could say they are becoming more abundant than they used to be when we had to over till the soil, spray all kinds of actually dangerous crap on our land, and watch our ditches fill up with sediment, and eroded soil, and who knows what chemicals. Now the water running off is perfectly clear, there is no more erosion, and the soil stays put. The wildlife has permanent cover, earthworms are abundant, the soil is alive. The animals are increasing in population because they have a steady supply of food, cover, and clean water.

I guess a gene is going to kill us all! LOL

 

And yet the only "proof" is junk science and alarmist rhetoric.
Show us this "clear danger"

Let's put the shoe on the other foot. You show us iron clad evidence that there is no clear danger without using the reports of the companies that make it.

 

Let's put the shoe on the other foot. You show us iron clad evidence that there is no clear danger without using the reports of the companies that make it.

I just gave you some. Does it matter to you? lol Wildlife populations are exploding. They eat glyphosate 90 days prior to the waiting period for human consumption. They eat gm crops all year long. They seem fertile enough! lol

 

I just gave you some. Does it matter to you? lol Wildlife populations are exploding. They eat glyphosate 90 days prior to the waiting period for human consumption. They eat gm crops all year long. They seem fertile enough! lol

Actually that was posted while I was posting. I hadent even seen it yet.

And it really doesnt matter to me what any one else does or eats. I pretty much have to feed gmo corn . I cant grow enough here to cover my feed needs. But I dont have to like it and I dont have to buy or use anything other than I absolutely have to.

 

I didn't look at the links.

There are some really different experiments going on in China.

Dow and Monsanto actually do a pretty good job filtering out stuff here in the USA.

Going to be really interesting when they get to gmo on animals, and what will come of that.

Next will be humans, and then where does that lead us?

I can't find anything creadable against current gmo crops. Just the fear of the unknown that some have.

For growing your own stuff, I'm sure glad folks can grow what they want, certainly support that.

Someday we are going to face more difficult questions, with animals and humans. Where that leads will be interesting times.......

I forgot I meant to reply to the original question, when is enough enough - I think it is very very clear, we will get more and faster gmo in the near future, not less.

Paul

 

You show us iron clad evidence that there is no clear danger without using the reports of the companies that make it.

http://www.rps.psu.edu/probing/modified.html

Are genetically modified foods safe to eat?

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According to Penn State plant geneticist and molecular biologist Nina Fedoroff, "Genetically modified foods are as safe to eat as foods made from plants modified by more traditional methods of plant breeding. In fact, they are very probably safer, simply because they undergo testing that has never been required for food plants modified either by traditional breeding techniques or by mutagenesis, both of which can alter a plant's chemical composition.

 

When chemical companies stop writing checks to the colleges that do the testing, is the day I might start believing them. > Marc

 

When chemical companies stop writing checks to the colleges that do the testing, is the day I might start believing them. > Marc

They have to do that according to normal procedures which existed long before GMOs came along. If someone develops and patents something, that someone has to pay for all testing. That applies to all chemicals, foods, medicines, etc. and that's the way it should be. If not, who should?

Martin

 

They cured a little girl of leukemia by genetically engineering her own cells to fight the cancer. Seems like a pretty good thing to me.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/253895.php

 

My DS just took a post doctorate position with the USDA in South Dakota- he'll be studying the effects of GMO's on insects. So soon, we'll know the true story......eep:

The real truth? Or the truth as Monsanto wants it seen?

 

They cured a little girl of leukemia by genetically engineering her own cells to fight the cancer. Seems like a pretty good thing to me.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/253895.php

Of course.

Create the disease that infects the most innocent then play God and cure it.

Works for me.

 

Of course.

Create the disease that infects the most innocent then play God and cure it.

Works for me.

There sure is NO PROVE what so ever that GM was the culprit in having this little girl having leukemia. NONE.
But the cure sure was a God sent that scientists KNEW how to go about the genetically engineering her own cells to fight it.~!

 

There's one which is locked up tight somewhere and nobody is willing to risk the costs involved in developing it. Flavr Savr was the only GMO tomato ever released and the only modification was turning off the gene which causes tomatoes to rot after reaching a certain stage of maturity. The public was a victim of a scare campaign which called it a "frankenfood" and its commercial life was short. There's also genes which can be manipulated so that tomato plants may be frost-hardy down to 22ºF just like the brassica family. As long as there are those who think that we should spend 100 years to develop something that we need now, we will not see it in our lifetimes.

Martin

 

When chemical companies stop writing checks to the colleges that do the testing, is the day I might start believing them. > Marc

So show us the evidence you have that these studies are flawed

 

Create the disease that infects the most innocent then play God and cure it.

People were dying from cancer long before Monsanto introduced any GMO foods.
It's arguments like that which make the anti's lose all credibility.

 

People were dying from cancer long before Monsanto introduced any GMO foods.
It's arguments like that which make the anti's lose all credibility.

Cancer even precedes humans and other mammals as we know them. There's evidence of cancer occurring in dinosaur bones. Everything in their diet was genetically modified and engineered but by a bigger force than Monsanto.

Martin