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#1 ·
I spent the better part of 6 hours in the barn last night with my first ewe to lamb this year. She was the first to lamb last year as well, so I thought that was kind of interesting. She is not the speediest when it comes to this process and was really taking her time again last night. When she finally got down to business after 3 hours, she produced a nice ewe lamb and started in on cleaning her up and the baby was up and nursing within 20 minutes. As I thought she was a bit small, I thought that there was a strong likelihood that another was on its way. I waited and watched for another hour until I saw what appeared to be a water bag. I had read in my sheep book that the surefire way to tell if the ewe is done lambing is to examine this water bag to see if there is a white wormlike appendage attached to it. Since there was, I thought that surely she was done. I stayed with her for another hour, during which time she pawed the ground slightly, but was more interested in eating some hay. She would never lay down, she never appeared in distress. She seemed like all was fine.

So I went into the house to catch a few winks at 2:30 a.m. and came back out for barn check at 6. Lo and behold, there was a bigger ewe lamb dead on the ground that she apparently had soon after I went inside as it was partially cleaned off and cold.

What is frustrating is that this scenario played out almost exactly as it did last year, except that she had the lamb in the early a.m. around 5 last year. I honestly think that she holds out until I am out of sight. I hear some people that leave them completely alone and things work out; others are hover shepherds that have to be there the entire time. She's not an overly nervous ewe, and I've never really had to assist her. But it's getting doggone hard to know when to step in and when not to. I was so sure she was done based on the appearance of the water bag.

Besides reaching in to check (I can do it, but hate to resort to that as some have suggested damaging the ewe and the lambing process), what do you do to determine if the ewe is done? This is a shame as I have now lost 2 ewe lambs 2 years in a row. I hate to beat myself up about it, but I feel pretty lousy.:smack
 
#2 ·
I'm sorry, it's never easy to lose a baby. :( Don't beat yourself up too hard, the lamb may have been dead when it was born (and it sounds like she possibly was).

I use a few ways to tell if she's done or not. In my experience, if there's another water bag (amniotic sac), then there is another lamb. I also go on size of the lamb born. If it's not a big lamb, I assume there's another. Also, I look at what's hanging out of the ewe. If there is thick, pink tissue, or the white cord like you mentioned, she's done. If the tissue hanging out is thin, then I assume there's another. It's really hard to explain it without pictures. I'll look around.

Also, if your ewe was still pawing, that's a sign she's going to either have another lamb or possibly just pass the placenta. If she's pushing, and nothing is happening, I would go in and check to see if the lamb is in the proper position. Also, if you really just want to be safe, you can do an internal exam to check for yourself. Just make sure to wash up VERY well or use a sleeve to prevent infection.

You can also "bump" the belly to see if there's a lamb in there. I'll use my fist to quickly (but gently) push in and hold it, (I push in on the right side), and see if a lamb will come back and kinda "bump" into your hand. Or, you can stand over her and use both hands to pull up on her belly and see if you can feel something.
 
#3 ·
Here are the best picture examples I can find on the net to try to show what I was explaining.

This ewe has not yet lambed, but it would look similar if she'd had one lamb and was getting ready to have another. See how the amniotic sac tissue is fairly thin and unsubstantial?

This ewe is done lambing. She still has some fluid in the tissue, but you can see it's darker and more substantial tissue (the placenta is redder).

This ewe is also done (I'd bet on it), and though there's not as much tissue, you can see it's thick and darker pink.

And this ewe is done, because there is placenta hanging out. I've never had or seen a ewe lamb and have placenta hanging out with more lambs inside. The placenta hangs back until all the lambs are out (at least with every lambing I've seen).


It just takes time to get familiar with the looks of things, and keep in mind it's not an exact science, so there's probably always a chance of a ewe out there who will prove us wrong some time. ;)
 
#4 ·
I am sorry you lost a ewe lamb.

Now you know more about this ewe and will know what to watch for next year. I have one that her first lambing- she did it all alone - twins.

The 2nd, I was there and she had 1. We waited forever for number 2...when it finally came out - backwards, it was already dead. #3 came out immediately afterwards. (there really shouldn't be much more than 30 minutes between twins or triplets being born.

3rd year- same thing, only this time I was there and pulled #2 out as soon as I saw her get uncomforatble again -a bout 15 minutes after the first one. All was well.

This year - 4th lambing. I checked her at 5- nothing. At 7 DH went out to check and she'd had triplets again with one nice big ewe lamb already dead. I suspect it was #2. This ewe always has a ton of amniotic fluid also. She gets huge and so uncomfortable she can barely move. I know her. I know what can happen.

It doesn't always help, and you might still lose lambs, but at least you know what to be on the look out for in your ewe - Delayed lambing. Next year, after she had number 1, I'd give her 20 minutes then go in a check what's happening.