Our vet posted this up on FB today:
Starting June 11, 2023
The FDA is changing their regulations to make select antibiotics be available by prescription only.
What does this mean for you?

• listed medications are only available for your veterinarian to prescribe to the patient in question
• this requires a Veterinarian-Client-Patient relationship. Meaning you have to be a client of RHVS and have a veterinarian visit your operation to view the animals and discuss health protocols.

Included ingredients:

• Cephapirin
• Cephapirin Benzathine
• Dihydrostreptomycin
• Erythromycin
• Gentamicin
• Lincomycin
• Novobiocin

-Penicillin

• Spectinomycin
• Sulfa antibiotics
• Tetracyclines
• Tylosin

Common antibiotics include: Albon, PenG, Lincomix, LA-200, Terramycin ointment and scours tablets

They are doing their best to put small operators out of business. Unless I agree to annual visits, even if not needed, I cannot get a vet around here to come out in an emergency situation. The vets have become narcs.

 

I was with you until your last sentence, and then I got confused. I agree with your point, a vet is not likely going to write a script for someone that is not on their patient/client roster. Whether that's good or bad, I imagine that's true. But, not sure how vets have become narcs - isn't that someone that that investigates illegal narcotics use/sale or someone that rats on someone?

 

I am very fortunate in regards to my Vet. My Vet is a bigger outlaw than I am. When he works on my animals I pay cash, and when I build fence on his ranch he pays me cash.

 

Here is the FDA propaganda about the new regulations.

Progress on FDA’s Support of Antimicrobial Stewardship - Animal Drugs

The Center of Veterinary Medicine (CVM) will use this site to post progress on FDA's support of antimicrobial stewardship in veterinary settings.

www.fda.gov

Medications for honey bees will also require a veterinarian prescription. Does anyone know of a vet that will see bees?

According to the timeline in the article, all the regulations will be set up long before the public comment period will be open. IMO, the public comment will be done only to comply with their guidelines. It won't make one little bit of difference because the FDA has already decided what they will do. Even though it won't make a difference, I plan on sending some emails when they open the comment period. IF they even announce when the comments are being accepted.

Thanks for the heads-up, @mzgarden. It's something we all need to watch out for.

 

Here is the FDA propaganda about the new regulations.

Exactly--see below

Does anyone know of a vet that will see bees?

The problem here is that they would all see bees but those little stethoscopes are too expensive.

The "theory" is that antibiotics, particularly when used indiscriminately, all eventually become ineffective, promoting bacterial resistance, and that when that happens, theoretically, antibiotic rsistant infections in humans would rise... In theory, it's true. That's how evolutiom thru random mutatiion & natural selection works, BUT--

In practice, the theory fails on two counts-- first, out of 20 million food borne, human illnesses that occur each year, 19,997,000 are due to bacterial endotxin (not treated with antibiotics), not actual infection, and almost all of them are caused by improper handling of food in the conummers' kitchens, not from the farm....

..and secondly, the last time I searched the med lit on this (~ 10 yrs ago) there had never been a reported case of a food borne, antibioitc- resistant bacterial illness transmitted from a cow to a man, and only one case reported of an antibiotic-resistant bacterial infection between a chicken & man-- and that went from a Dutch farm worker to the chicken.

More Draconian control via govt regs based on unfounded excuses and fears.

...

 

Fish antibiotic good to buy and keep on hand.

 

For now. From what I was reading even the little fishies will have to see a vet to get the antibiotics once this takes effect.

 

They did this several years ago with several other OTC drugs. Next they won't even let us buy dewormer without a vet script. They are trying their darndest to make it so it is so hard to raise your own animals that people will give up.

 

That literally is the ONLY rational explanation.

 

They've been warning about this for over a year now.

Doesn't make it right. <sigh>

 

This is going to impact animals in a very negative way. Not all producers can afford a vet every time Bossy has a cough or mastitis. Nor should they need one, if they can accurately diagnose their animals. Lack of available medications for animals makes the animals suffer in the end. It's almost animal cruelty to make all these things prescription only. It creates barriers to animal health.

 

These laws have nothing to do with agriculture. It's about control. Easier to disarm people who can't treat their wounded with antibiotics. Blue hat stuff.

 

I hear my mom's voice 'in the olden days they didn't have antibiotics, dog kibble, dental exams', etc. etc. in various to fit whatever narrative at the time.

These regs kind of make me wish I went to vet school some days.

 

Saw the same notice at TSC.

 

That notice is misleading.

 

Because it says they will be discontinued - as they aren't being dc'd, they're simply no longer going to be available OTC. Or, for another reason?

 

I agree.

 

You are correct.

 

Maybe discontinued in the feed stores. Im sure the tractor suppy ect is not going to keep meds that need a prescription to buy.

 

Correct.

 

Hmmmmm wondering how "fish" antibiotics would work with goats...........

 

About the same as they work on any species.

Parts is parts.