We are currently in 4H. I don't know if they all do the same way, but this is how ours works.

1) Do they have to be registered and what registries if so?
They have to be registered in the persons name who is showing them. Typically they are registered with the ADGA.


2) Do they even judge on the goat or is it all a showmanship type thing?
They have a showmanship class and seperate classes for each breed of goat. ie. Alpine, Nigerian Dwarf, Oberhasli, Nubian, Toggenburg..... this is the class that they judge the goat.

3) They have a dairy class for purebred dairy goats and one for grade. What would an reg. American Nubian fall under?
It would fall under Purebred Nubian. Grade is for a goat that is half one breed and half another breed.

Hope that helps.
downhome

 

I have similar thoughts going since my kid wants to start showing, but we have boer kiko crosses, no papers can they be shown?

 

Thanks DownHome, that does help! I do remember reading something about goat can be leased? Do you know anything about that?

 

It was always my understanding that the 4H'er or a family member had to actually own the animal being used as a project. In the case of a horse, they did not have to actually own the horse, but had to at least be leasing it. Also, there is a deadline as to what day the animal had to be in the possession of the 4H'er in order to be able to be shown. In our county all animals had to be in the 4H'ers possession by June 1 and our county fair is 2nd week of August. I would check with your county agent to find out the details. Each county can make exceptions with approval of the 4h council.

 

I have similar thoughts going since my kid wants to start showing, but we have boer kiko crosses, no papers can they be shown?

They can be shown in meat goat/market class. We've shown a fainting goat wether that was not registered and this year we have a boer cross wether, no papers either.

 

It is TOTALLY different from each state to each county. Not all are going to be the same at all.

In our county, I was able to start a lease a goat program. I did that for kids that would like to show a animals but not have the ability (space or whatever) to have it. I have leased goats for 5 years. Out of that I was able to get 3 kids to purchase goats and they are still in the project.

Some patents prefer to do this so they can decide of the kid wants to do it or if it is just a fad at the time. It can become a big investment to purchase goats just to find out that the kids really do not want to do it after all.

Now for us they have to sign a contract and a copy goes to the Extension office so they have it on file and they know it is a LEASE project only. They still have to follow all the rules of 4H as the other kids do, and they have to have the contract signed and into the extension office by the add drop date, they can not decide to do it the week before fair, it is a all year project.

 

Definatly check with your local 4H office. They will know if the leader doesn't. Here we do not have to be registered. Leasing also is done here, at least in the pygmy goats and the llamas, no one in our dairy goat group was leasing. Meat goats show in the meat goat class. They can also be used as your showmanship goat, but at least here, he couldn't use his pygmy goat for showmanship in the dairy goat show. I think it varies a lot from one county to another. Here every animal has it's own club; dairy goat club, fiber goat club, pygmy goat club, pig club, sheep club, whereas in my nieces county you join one club for all of your animals.