Your most/least Favorite Vehicles?

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  1. Janon

    Janon 993cc Geo Metro

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    Just curious... what was/is your most and least favorite vehicle(s). It must be one which you've owned.

    I'll start

    Favorites:
    1 - 1986 Ford F150 with a carburated straight 6 300ci, very reliable
    2 - 1974 Plymouth Duster with a slant 6 225ci, it just would not die, super reliable, great on gas, nice to drive (although I seem to remember replacing lots of starters)

    Least Favorites:
    1 - 1972 VW Bug, fun to drive on a Sunday, not fun in traffic, terrible in the cold, noisy, smelly (had a gasoline heater), small and slow... it was however very easy to fix (you can change the engine in about an hour by yourself)
    2 - 1981 Plymouth 4-Door, it was cursed, never ran properly and was forever breaking down

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  2. Ross

    Ross Moderator Staff Member Supporter

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    I really like my 93 Ford Crown Vic. Mid twenties for milage very comfortable, been pretty reliable and cheap to own. Heck it wasn't very expensive as a 3 year old car. My 91 GMC one ton van had an elaborate origin. It was a govt. pilot project into electric vehicles. Trouble was to charge the huge battery bank was not cost effective. Got it with 20k on the chassis and we put a 305 and a 700R4 into it and its been one of the best vehicles we've ever had. 88 Dodge Omni was a favorite little speed demon. It would still be here if I hadn't been young when it was. We had/have various Dodge trucks that neither please nor disappoint. Dodges never get it all right but they do what they can forever.

    I did like my Ford F250 too but it rotted away too fast. Jeep Cherokee with the Chev 2.8 V6 and Chryco tranny was born to fail. Did like the selec trac all wheel drive though. Jeep J 20.......... now I don't mind feeding a good horse but there are limits! Powerful, huge, the strongest truck in the world but I just couldn't afford the gas. Ford Fairmont with a straight 6. If it had the good tranny it would have been a favorite. It didn't. Ford Pinto, 2 Dodge K cars, VW Bug, Ford Taurus, Plymouth Sundance, all had their points to like, all had enough wrong with them to make them miss a fav. list. Not enough Chevs or Toyotas in my past, but they're next if I run out of Crown Vics.
     

  3. Ross

    Ross Moderator Staff Member Supporter

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    Oops forgot the Jeep 4 cyl Comanche. It needs a rebuild but has earned it. Should try to get to that this fall. Except for the Command Trac shifting fork it is a first class little truck,
     
  4. WanderingOak

    WanderingOak Well-Known Member

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    1 - 2000 Hyundai Elantra- Paid for, 147K before any mechanical difficulties.
    2 - 1988 Chevy S-10 4x4. 278K miles, still going. Nuff said.

    Least Favorites:
    1 - 1989 Ford Escort. No power brakes. Rear ended Semi- totaled car.

    2- 1973 WV Van- sunroof leaked like a sieve. Can you say rust? Rear wheels seized up.

    3- 1988 Pontiac 6000LE. 4 banger, couldn't get out of it's own way, dangerous on hills/mountains. Engine designed for RWD pickups, somehow found it's way into a FWD sedan. Oil filter in back of engine compartment above drive axles. No room for filter wrench, oil dripped all over transmission and axles when filter finally removed. Rust blended in with maroon paint. In spite of problems, very reliable, never broke down. Nobody in right mind would steal it.
     
  5. Ozarks_1

    Ozarks_1 Well-Known Member

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    Favorites:
    1968 International Scout convertible with V-8 engine and 4 spd
    1973 Chevy K10 4x4 with 350 engine and auto trans (current truck)

    Least favorites:
    1985 Ford F250 4x4 with 302 engine and AOD trans (biggest piece of crap I ever owned!) It wan't even fit for use around the farm at 140,000 miles.
    1987 Ford F250 with diesel engine and 4 spd (second biggest piece of crap!)
     
  6. Lt. Wombat

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    They're all favorites when used in their proper categories.

    Brute strength and heavy hauling the favorite is the 1994 F-350 Crew with an IDI turbo engine

    For kid hauling the 2000 Windstar is tops though it likes to eat outer tie rods and CV axles

    Light hauling the 1967 F-100 with the hot rod 390 works well

    Repeated long distance driving (solo) 1997 Geo as it gets 39.8 mph regardless of conditions, AC on/off, up hill or down hill

    And for nasty driving conditions when time ISN’T a factor the Unimog can’t be stopped


    Worst in the past have been: Plymouth Voyager (7 transaxles within the 7/70 warranty), 72 VW Bettle …. Enough said!
     
  7. HermitJohn

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    Favorites:
    1. 1976 Volvo 245 4cyl manual tranny Bought it with 200k miles and put on another 50k before its northern body rusted beyond use.

    2. 1972 Ford Bronco with 200 straight six and 3 on tree. Good road manners, honest 20mpg, and 4wd. Near perfect homesteading vehicle. Alas body was literally a pile of rust when I sold it. Kept wondering when seat would fall out on hiway with me in it. I'd love to have another in fully restored condition, but they are collectable and big bucks now. I can make an argument that this is best vehicle Ford ever made, though I am fond of one early 90's 4cyl Ranger owned by a friend.

    3. 1971 Ford Courier (made by Mazda). It went well beyond the call of duty over the years, though it evolved into a "Johnny Cash Special" with parts adapted from many makes and models since originals became impossible to find or unaffordable if one could. My neighbors are still driving it in its last incarnation. For me it just finally became cheaper to replace it with current Arrow than rebuild front end with expensive hard to find parts.

    4. 1976 Datsun 620. My ex took this truck after divorce. Except for the front drum brakes which required constant adjustment, it was best small truck I've ever driven. Better road manners than courier.

    5. 1971 Buick LaSabre. Boat with Buick 350 V8 but would hit 22mpg on long hiway trips and as comfy as it gets. As I get older, wouldnt mind another one of these although it wouldnt be practical where I live.

    Least Favorites:

    1. 1973 Chevy 3/4 ton 2wd pickup with 350. 8mpg rust bucket. I never seen anything rust as badly and as quickly as that thing. That chev 350 had to be worst engine I ever run across. I simply wont have anything with Chev 350 after my horrible experiences with that one.

    2. AMC Gremlin Do I really need to explain? At least it was only $75.

    3. '77 VW Rabbit. Love/hate relationship with this thing. Lot fun when it run with great fuel mileage. Otherwise pain in rear required constant messing with, parts cost a mint.
     
  8. DrippingSprings

    DrippingSprings In Remembrance

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    1992 Crown Vic bought it new and even though I replaced it with a new one in 1999 I kept it because for a big car it gets better mileage than most compacts. It was so dependable that I have racked up 329,000 miles on it. At 100,00 I got paranoid as I am used to most cars dying soon after so I bought the new one. Right now the new one has a little over 12,000 on it as we only use it for trips when we are afraid to use the high mileage one. I am going to keep it until it lays down and dies just to see how many I can get out of it.

    1967 Dodge Polara 2dr hardtop with 440 and 727 torqueflight tranny.
    1969 Road Runner 383 big block with a line bore and a crank from a 440 dropped in. Original 4 speed and nine inch rear end. Factory six pack. I bought it for 3500 put a hundred thousand on it and sold it last year for 14,000 to a collector

    1986 Ford Dualie 1 ton long wheel base four door custom. Had dark blue velour interior, a tv and a mini bar. we hauled our Percherons,Belgians,and Clydesdales all over the US for my wife to use for show. It had almost 350,000 on the diesel engine when tornado made a beer can out of it a couple years back


    Most hated
    1986 Lincoln Continental. Had every gadget known to man. Heated seats all digital etc etc. Bought brand new. Within a year the air ride suspension went out. Had it fixed five times in three years. you wake up or come out of a store and it would be sitting so low to the ground your hand wouldnt fit under it. I made the mistake of paying cash for this one. After the warranty ran out and I still had problems with it I finally took the car with 11,00 miles on it and used a big caterpiller dozier I had and videotaped myself crushing it and sent it to Ford.
    I still see that same model from time to time out on the road with the same problem.

    1992 Dodge full size pickup. Whatever genius decided to put this conglomeration together should have been shot. Three transmissions and four fuel pumps and just about anything with electrical current running through it later we finally gutted all the new stuff and stuck a 360 in it out of an older model and a 727 and it was a great truck til my son wrecked it.

    Bought my sister a new Mitsubishi Eclipse for graduation 96 model. By par the biggest piece of junk known to man. 15,000 dollar paper weight. There is a reason most folks at parts stores call them Piecea****si Eclipses
     
  9. mightybooboo

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    If there is a better power/reliable truck setup then this,Ive sure never owned it.Gas hog though.That 727 is bulletproof tough!Pulls my 10,000 lb. Winnebago around just fine,thank you very much!Thats a fine truck!
    I think our 92 Chevy s10 2.8 v6 was the best vehicle weve ever owned for reliability and value.Could have used more power.Breezed thru smog tests.Whole truck was just solid,even the seats never ripped,no rattles,AC ice cold,paint excellent,same clutch and tranny,finally engine got tired(just declining power,used a half quart oil between changes,flew thru smog tests) with I dont know how many miles,but I drive about 20,000 to 30,000 a year.Speedo died at 120,000 miles that we put on in first 4 years.Nephew added a new motor,its still truckin' though he thrashed it but bad,looks like a pile in just a three years.
    BooBoo
     
  10. Countrybumpkin

    Countrybumpkin Well-Known Member

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    Best car I ever had was a '92 Ford Festiva...bought new, put 93,000 miles on it, and ouside of routine maint., not a thing broke...sold it to a co-worker, and he still drives it everyday, and still has done nothing to it...shoulda kept it! Sold it to buy a Jeep Wrangler...love driving it, a blast in the summer, but sucks gas, kinda maint. heavy, and no room...
     
  11. herefordman

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    BEST:
    1997 GMC Sierra 350 Vortec 4sp auto 1/2 ton
    340,000miles and still runs like a top.

    1977 GMC Sport truck 454 auto shortbox hauls ass, reasonable gas mileage.

    WORST:
    1991 Ford XLT Lariat supercab full size box 302 auto
    biggest piece of expensive crap I ever owned.
    even the black paint was garbage.

    1984 VW Rabbit Diesel, cold start smoke was unbelievable, never warmed up, froze to death in this thing in the winter, super gas mileage, but kept forgetting to fill it up and kept running out !!!!
    Couldn't pull the skin off of pudding going up a long hill you would be down to second gear by the time you hit the top.

    1973 Maverick six cylinder four door pile of rust in three years.
     
  12. uriah

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    Best? It's a toss up between Volvo and Ford.

    Never owned many imports (other then Volvo and Saab, and select few jap cars in the middle, like 3 in my life).

    Right now, the 'best' truck I have in the one I just got, a 1979 Ford F100 shortbed stepside with the Free Wheelin' package. I got it a couple months ago, and it's getting a new cab, the engine and trans are in the shop getting rebuilt, and I fully expect to get 200K out of it when it's done.

    I refuse to pay big money for a new one, so I'll have somewhere about 6-7K in this when it's done, and if it don't get totaled will expect to drive it for a decade or longer. Not to mention parts are still cheap and everywhere.

    Worst isn't hard to figure out, other then the 60-66 Chevy-GMC trucks I used to be into, every other GM car I've owned, BAR NONE has been junk.

    I've just always got my best service out of Fords, period.
     
  13. Cygnet

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    Worst: 1978 Thunderbird -- my first car, graduation gift from my parents om 1993 -- it had been sitting for ten years on blocks in someone's garage and had 73K original miles on it, was a little old lady car. Timing chain broke in the first two months, fixed the timing chain but it smashed the valves up, and I didn't have the money or tools to fix it myself or hire anyone else to fix it -- primarily because everything else kept breaking on the vehicle. So I continually had to pour oil into it and replaced spark plugs a couple times a week. (On the other hand, I impressed a few guys by diving headfirst under the hood, dang near doing a head stand to replace the #8 spark plug which was the one that went out most of the time, and efficiently replacing everything.)

    Thing was so prone to breaking down I wouldn't drive in the high speed lane on the freeway because I was afraid it'd croak on me and strand me. In two years, off the top of my head, I put a transmission, a water pump, a starter, two alternators, rebuilt the carb, replaced the timing chain, overhauled the vaccuum hoses, replaced the vaccuum switch that lifted the headlights, overhauled the electrical system, replaced the radiator, rebuilt the front end, replaced the rear end, replaced the brake master cylinder TWICE -- oh, and tuned the damn thing bi-monthly. (On the bright side, I could tune it myself, and did some of the easier repairs myself.) And I know other things broke too, that's just what I can remember off the top of my head.

    Oh, and the windshield was $$$$$ to replace.

    It also handled like a dog -- it had a lot of GO, but not a lot of STOP. After I (newbie driver) locked the brakes up and did a 360 and a 180 thru rush hour traffic and ended up facing the wrong way in the median of Phoenix' Squaw Peak Parkway (major highway) during rush hour without hitting anything, it got parked and I bought my dad's Jeep ... which was easier to handle, much less of a maintenance pig (which is saying something, given this was a jeep) ... and rarely broke down and never o9nce broke down anywhere awkward.

    The Jeep was fun -- has to be my favorite vehicle. 4X4 Cherokee Pioneer, 86 model. Ran like a top most of the time -- looked terrible (that metallic paint that flakes off plus several offroading dents and scratches) and the one time someone tried to steal it, they apparently couldn't get it started *LOL* but it ran good for me most of the time, and even though it was only a 4 cylinder, I can only remember getting it seriously time-to-dig stuck once. Engine went out at 230K miles and I sold it -- buyer fixed it up and the last I heard, it was still going.

    My current vehicle's a little 2001 S10. I complain about the handling and it gets stuck in 4" of sand (not, unfortunately, an exaggeration as I measured the depth of sand to hardpan last time it got stuck on the road) and I've been known to refer to it as a 1/2 scale toy truck, but it's a reliable little beast. It's never seriously broken down and it's got 125K miles on it -- my thermostat's going out, I think, because the temp's being erratic for no good reason, but that still doesn't qualify as "serious" ... and I got it for zero interest so you can't beat that.

    Leva
     
  14. fordy

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    .................My worst vehicle was a 1970 pontiac with a 350 and 3 speed on the column . The vehicle was ok but that darn 3 speed gave me hell for 60k miles until I finally traded it to a friend .
    ................(1)Best...My current 1999 F250, PSD diesel with 81,500 miles . I bought it new and it had a few things that needed attention but it really pulls with a 6 speed . I've been considering selling it and buying a '005 d3500 cummins , 4x4 , to pull a travel trailer after I sell my place .
    ................(2) my , other pride and joy is a 1977 f250 , 4x4, Hiboy which I have been rennovating for the last 3 years . I have just finished a major reworking of the power steering system on this truck and it looks like It will turnout OK . The down side is that it only gets 8 mpg and I don't know if I can afford to drive it very much . It will remain a farm truck so I'll not be too picky on the looks . I may eventually convert it over to Propane if I can find a good , used system . Although , the price of propane seems to rise and fall with the price of gas and diesel and isn't "Cheap" the way it use to be several years prior . .....fordy.... :eek: :)
     
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    Favorite= 1966 Chevell SS396, great car. 0H those were the days.

    Least= 1974 AMC Hornet, reliable but sucked gas and I changed an exhaust doughnut gasket every month we had it. I went to the garage one day and asked what I could do because the exhaust manifold glowed cherry red, they told me to stop opening the hood at night.
     
  17. John Carter

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    #1 favorite. 53 chevey Belair Convertable (hence the name) still own
    #2 55 chevey 4 door post sold
    #3 79 Jeep J10 truck still own
    #4 85 Ford Mustang GT COnvertable 5.0 still own
    Least favorite

    #1 Amc Gremlin gave away
    #2 86 Ford Aerostar Traded for 93 FOrd aerostat. still own
     
  18. comfortablynumb

    comfortablynumb Well-Known Member

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    anything made before 1970 = bad

    everything before 1970 = good

    with a few exceptions here and there, not many!

    the VW is engineerng perfection, if it was cold, you had a duct problem.. if it had a gasoline heater, that was an engineeering oops, you could convert it to heater box heat which is simple and reliable.

    yes easy, I removed an replaced a VW bus engine alone with an arm in a cast and a leg in a brace.

    i drove one 50 miles home on 2 cylinders and just thought it was a miss.

    they used to be cheap, now you cant find a nice one to save your skin.
     
  19. WanderingOak

    WanderingOak Well-Known Member

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    I trust you meant after 1970 = bad :p . Otherwise, you were saying that everything before 1970 is both good and bad...
     
  20. Beeman

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    I've owned a lot of good ones. Current good ones are a 90 Chevy Suburban 350 engine and an 81 Ford PU 4 wd 300 6 cyl.


    I will never ever own another Ford with fuel injection. The biggest piece of crap I have ever owned is my 90 Ford Bronco 351/auto. Ther is almost nothing that hasn't gone wrong on this and every thing that went wrong is a common problem on these. Second biggest piece of junk I ever owned was an 86 Subaru SW, it too had many common problems.