Wuhan has banned eating wild animals and nearby provinces are offering farmers cash to stop breeding

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  1. remmettn

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    https://news.yahoo.com/wuhan-banned-eating-wild-animals-113049608.html

    On Wednesday, authorities in Wuhan, a city of 11 million in Hubei and the epicenter of the coronavirus pandemic, announced eating wild animals would be banned, according to CBS News.

    Wuhan would become a "wildlife sanctuary," officials said, with a citywide prohibition on hunting except for "scientific research, population regulation, monitoring of epidemic diseases and other special circumstances," according to the Independent.

    Before it was shuttered in January, merchants at Wuhan's Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market sold and slaughtered beavers, porcupines, and baby crocodiles, National Geographic reported.

    "As I fear the mutated Coronavirus,
    What are the Chinese not telling us this time."
     
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    The Wuhan virus walked into that market, infected a few people and walked out of it. There really isn't a lot of doubt it came from a bat. But, that bat virus was being "studied" at the Wuhan lab. Whether it was selectively chosen and grown beyond that before it was released...accidentally or not is yet to be determined.
     
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    Alice In TX/MO Be powerful. No other option exists. Supporter

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    Good luck with changing a long term cultural norm.

    It ain’t happening.
     
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    Just another Chinese spin.
    I believe the virus was manufactured in the lab outside Wuhan not in the marketplace. How it got into the general public is just conjecture, although I have my ideas. By putting a ban on eating wild animals is reinforcing the story the Chinese want us to believe.
     
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    And the rural markets will go on as before.
     
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    Just yesterday I had a very interesting discussion about the consumption of wild animals with a First Nations friend about traditions. Cultural norms. No one is more protective of their culture, traditions and traditional knowledge than our First Nations peoples and they are getting stronger and more adept at protecting them with each generation.

    She surprised me by absolutely supporting the stopping of wild meat markets and acknowledging that any change to cultural norms is necessary when and if the environment demands it. She does not believe that the Chinese are unwilling or incapable of this change just that there is a question of how to enforce and control it. The selling of wild meat is very big economically so will be difficult to replace and people never want to give up or change their income stream.

    To deny zoonotic disease and especially how it is flourishing in some areas is to accept that people are unable to change when the environment changes. This is partially due to climate change and the current mass extinction of animal and plant life.

    First Nations culture has aspects of it that go back tens of thousands of year (as with the Chinese) but also culture that is less than a hundred years old and new changes happening now and will continue with future generations. So change is always happening.

    If China does not stop the wet markets and especially the breeding of wild animals for food this will continue to be a very quick petrie dish for disease. Simply because wild animals in nature do not live in the extremely close confines and filthy conditions of breeder farms. Unnatural living conditions leads to unnatural conditions for new disease to develop and older ones to mutate and others that never threatened humans to change and cross the species barrier.
     
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    Hope is not a strategy
     
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    There are millions of people in China, who are existing at starvation level. They will eat whatever they can get. Passing a new law won't change anything. They buy hundreds of thousands of donkeys from India every year just for the meat market, and they still can't meet the demand. There are no stray dogs, or cats in China. And except for the most remote regions, there are no game animals left at all.
     
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    I sincerely doubt the Chinese government will give any consideration to people's hopes - whether those of their own people or from around the world. They will enforce what they deem necessary or what becomes politically or economically expedient. Just like other countries. Pandemics cause enormous suffering and economic hardship. If closing wet markets, outlawing wild animal breeding or hunting will prevent new diseases and especially more economic hardship they will do whatever it takes. Culture be da#ned.
     
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    CCP is very enthusiastic about the rule of law.

    China’s western Xinjiang region, populated by mostly Turkic-speaking Muslims, up to one in 12 Muslim residents (a million plus people) languish in political re-education camps, according to the United Nations. Many have been confined for seemingly inoffensive activities, including:

    Abstaining from alcohol and cigarettes. Having too many children. Owning a tent or a compass. Refusing to let officials take a retinal scan or a DNA sample. Giving a deceased relative a traditional Muslim burial instead of cremation. Traveling abroad, or just having spoken with someone who has.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...ntion-camps-china-now-portrays-humane-n922041
     
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    CCP is very enthusiastic about the rule of power. And there may be a Communist Party in China but it the power lies in the hands of one man and a few of his cronies. Just as in Russia there is a dictator and no real communism left. A warning for the US which has to watch out how the Congress, Senate and Judicial are being over powered by one part - the Executive or rather the President. A real and current threat to the Republic. Just like in ancient Rome.
     
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    Just the President?
    You would be wise to pay attention to anyone that believes they know better than you what is best for you.
    Pay attention to your mayors, your local states attorney, your governors; the ones closing churches and towing cars from private property and telling you it is forbidden to walk on dry sand and who arrest barbers and demand they kneel before sentencing.
    They are supplanting themselves into the constitution, the law, the legislative process, and creating new precedent.
    Keep looking up for the tallest tree that may fall on you and you will continue to trip over the stumps.
     
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    Long ago we crossed that Rubicon. Government instituted among men by the consent of the governed to guarantee our rights and liberties is now what is antithesis of its purpose.
     
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    Wuhan is one of the biggest cities in china like 11 million people
     
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    If "wild" animals are farm raised how are they considered wild?
     
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    If my neighbor was raising a chupacabra to eat, I would not consider that to be domesticated meat.
     
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    Wikipedia The chupacabra or chupacabras is a legendary creature in the folklore of parts of the Americas, with its first purported sightings reported in Puerto Rico. The name comes from the animal's reported habit of attacking and drinking the blood of livestock, including goats

    so they would be pets right.
     
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    I can't speak for Wikipedia but there is a guy from church that is married to a chupacabra. She's baptized and everything.
    She seems to think she is human but there is no doubt in any single man's mind.
    There isn't an official season for them down here yet but we still try to avoid talking about kills in her company.