ok I had this idea today... and i put it in to motion. I am amazed, it actually works. I screwed steel gutter gaurd mesh strips on my UP pipe off the woodstove, that gets to hot most of the time, and a fan on it doesnt cool it. I was wondering how to suck that heat off the pipe and not have to reinvent the wheel... about then I had to blow the dust out of my PCs heatsink and it hit me like a train... heat sinks... so here it is... this stove is about... 6 feet from my desk and I never feel the heat from the stove. NOW.. I have this massive radiant wave on me so bad I have to move the desk. and the stove is birning pretty "nomal", not full blast.. its just cooking a log, low flame... a state where before i wouldnt be etting much heat off the stove. try this trick... I cant belive it really works. I set a fan behid the pipe to blow thru the mesh and I had to take it off, the heat in here is just to much. I serious... this thing radiates heat like you wouldnt believe. :happy: crazy yeah, ugly, absolutely. who cares it works. oh cost; 6 bucks. :rock: there are four 3 ft strips screwed to this 6" pipe, one on each side and two in front. cant put them on the back, the wall would get to hot from the radiant heat. I know it works, the pipe temp dropped to @270, it was running at @350+ all the time, so the pipe is cooler.... which is what I was after.... how to cool the pipe and use that wasted heat.