Who is interested in the gut biome and health?

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  1. Al Yaz

    Al Yaz Well-Known Member

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    This may not be the best thread for this, if not, I apologize. However we chatted at length a couple of nights ago with two women who are vegans (no meat, chicken, fish, eggs, cheese, etc). They talked about how they believed their gut biomes changed within about 21 days of having changed to vegan diets. Their stories were quite compelling. Even though we eat all organic fruits and vegetables and organic fed meats (when we do eat it) the ’21 day vegan challenge’ to see if there is a difference is strong. Has anyone gone Vegan and noticed immediate changes in their health?
     
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    That's a good question. In gut studies, Africans have more Prevotella while those with a Western diet have more Bacteroides. Because the gut is the home of anaerobic bacteria, changing the colonies would seem to require prebiotic/diet changes since none of those bacteria would survive stomach acid. The conflicting info seems to be that Provotella copri may be associated with inflammation which in turn may trigger an autoimmune disease. That doesn't jibe with being Vegan as a healthy life style. It does raise the question of the incidence of autoimmune diseases in Vegans. Are they at higher risk, lower risk, or the same? This also ignores genetics and the predisposition that may exist.

    FWIW, my brain is somewhat swimming with this. It's difficult to reach a conclusion in part because it's an emerging area in medical science. An example is several studies which seemed to indicate humans could be pigeonholed as having one or other predominate gut colonies. Later studies show that it's a continuum which makes sense.
     

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    The other issue with autoimmune diseases is environmental factors which are thought to be behind the increase worldwide. I don't think gut bacteria is the magic solution to understanding maladies. We tend to pigeonhole or classify things to understand them. Autism is an example of pigeonholing that lead to a delay in understanding. We need to understand things as a whole body even if it crosses boundaries.
     
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    Crapsule....
     
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