Okay, I think I made a booboo. My chart says the straight 8 cukes are closest to the house and my pickling cukes are toward the fence. Well, hmm, I think they are mixed up. But it is hard to tell (at least for me ) when they are small and for some reason they are looking almost alike when larger. So... how do I tell them apart? My only clue is that one has more pointed leaves than the other. Is this the pickles? :help: Usually I can tell them apart because the straight 8 is solid dark skinned but they aren't this year. If worse comes to worse in this rotten year will straight 8's can okay as pickles?