Where should peope live?

Discussion in 'Homesteading Questions' started by hillsidedigger, Dec 5, 2006.

  1. hillsidedigger

    hillsidedigger Well-Known Member

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    Its curious, from reading discussions here, it seems people shouldn't build and try to live in/on:

    flood hazard areas
    wetlands
    volcano slopes
    earthquake zones
    steep slopes
    tornado alleys
    hurricane prone coastlines
    tsunami endangered coastallines
    fire endangered forest peripheries
    critical endangered wildlife habitat
    etc.

    What's left?
     
  2. hisenthlay

    hisenthlay a.k.a. hyzenthlay

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    Pennsylvania! (Shhh, don't tell anyone.) :p
     

  3. DaleK

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    Eliminate all those kinds of places, and it kind of winds up with one choice, the LAST place anyone should be building - good farmland.
     
  4. hillsidedigger

    hillsidedigger Well-Known Member

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    That was fast DaleK, thats exactly what I was aluding to.

    A dispersed population of homesteaders takes a goodly percentage of the good farmland with houses, driveways, infrastructure, etc.
     
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    'They' are running another pipeline from Canada to the Twin Cities (Minneapolis/ St. Paul).

    They need to end in the SE corner of the 'Cities by the refineries.

    Can't go through the wetlands/ forest of very eastern MN or western Wis.

    Can't go through the 'Cties proper, too many 'not in my back yard' issues.

    So, they are going to make a big 'J' hook down the middle on Minnesota, south of the 'Cties, and then back up north again to the refinery area.

    Because, farmland doesn't count....

    --->Paul
     
  6. mtman

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    you can add next to me on that list
     
  7. arabian knight

    arabian knight Miniature Horse lover Supporter

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    Oh cool then just MAYBE WI.'s gas prices may come down at bit as it then is close to us, and have less transportation costs. neat.
     
  8. culpeper

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    I'm safe from all the above. Also from frost and snow, landslides, mudslides, avalanches, bush fires and tsunamis.

    I daresay my house displaced some animals, but whoever built it left plenty of habitat for them, so I don't feel guilty about it.
     
  9. chamoisee

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    -->Near to where other buildings are already, and there ought to be some kind of incentive or encouragement for people to garden or at leats plant bird friendly/insect friendly plants and trees in their yards instead of green lawn.

    -->Places like Wyoming, North and South Dakota, areas of Montana come to mind...Not good farm land, there is some animal and plant life, no real dangers except for hard winters, farmign would require intensive irrigation. I've seen parts of Nebraska like that, too.

    -->Ghettoes and abandoned areas that have been given up on should be rehabilitated. They can do there what they're doing here in northern Idaho: have rich folks come in speculating and buy up all the stuff that's for sale until lower incomed people cannot afford to live there. As the area becomes more posh and less affordable, they can start building new structures or make better use of the old ones. I think there should be an incentive to do this.
     
  10. Explorer

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    Some of the best farm land in the WORLD is in North Dakota's Red River Valley.
     
  11. hillsidedigger

    hillsidedigger Well-Known Member

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    We are living the good life here in America by virtue of Chinese
    slave labor. Needless to say, the Chinese won't remain our slave
    labor for too much longer, and the West won't remain prosperous for
    very much longer, and civilization won't exist for too much longer.

    We humans have destroyed the world in order to accummulate trash
    which is suitable only for landfills. Aren't we the most foolish
    animal to have ever inhabited the Earth?

    http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/energyresources/message/9 6849
     
  12. WisJim

    WisJim Well-Known Member Supporter

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    "THEY" should live in high-rise apartments near their jobs, and stay out of my neighborhood.
     
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  14. the mama

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    People can live anywhere on earth. Just need to build smart. On the side of an active volcano would be a trick, but it could be done. Just not by poor, unskilled village dwellers.
     
  15. Boleyz

    Boleyz Prognosticator, Artist

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    The only thing I can say is Don't try KY. We're full up here and only the places you described in Post 1 are left.

    We have snakes, heat, humidity, swamps, spiders and unsophisticated hillbillies who still tote guns...and use them from time-to-time.

    I dunno the answer to your question, but I know you can go ahead and mark KY off your list...
     
  16. Silvercreek Farmer

    Silvercreek Farmer Living the dream. Supporter

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    Yeah, I guess the idea is just to recognize all the potential risks in an area, and then prepare for them. Thats about all you can do. Think if everyone in Louisiana had recognized the threat and built their houses on stilts. The only problem with this is sometimes those risks change, and often times it is people's fault they change. Around here places that have never flooded before are flooding because of all the additional runoff from new development. Sometimes you just have to roll with it...
     
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    Every state has had a tornado so I guess they should all move to some other country....
     
  18. tchan

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    Arizona is alright, I guess, if you don't mind wind, a lot of red sand, and ever rising land prices. Not a lot of snow here and at least up in the mountains the temps don't get too high. No hurricanes, earthquakes, ice storms, tornados, volcanos(at least no live ones) wetlands are more than scarce and only flash floods during the monsoons. But it is easy to know where the flash floods are going to be. We do get forest fires up here though. Big ones. Some towns here you can keep horse and livestock right in the middle of town. Taxes are reasonable. We pay $98.00 a year for our 5 acre place . The major drawback to me is opening your front door and everything is brown. Not nice and green like in the Midwest or Pacific Northwest. We have lots of trees but the overall inpression you still get is brown.
     
  19. michiganfarmer

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    Michigan, but you dont want to live here. Its a socialist state
     
  20. Ford8N

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    As much as I hate them, high density cities are probably best for the environment in one sense: It keeps people stacked up densely in an area and leaves more land undamaged. Suburban sprawl is probably the worst thing that can happen to farmland and the environment, though. Most sheeple aren't like us and are unconfortable around rural life. It is better for us if as many of those as possible live in skyskrapers. They will never know what they are missing.

    To answer your question, I love Wisconsin, even if it is a blue state.