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We don't stay home, wear masks and observe social distancing necessarily to protect ourselves, but to protect others in the event that we have unknowingly contracted the disease. You don't care if you infect others who are more vulnerable?
I fully agree with social distancing but you're going to have to explain the mask theory to me a bit better. Logically, if we all agree that outside germs can make it past the mask and infect me, the same germs can sneak out from my side and infect someone else.

It scares the stuffing out of me that people believe that poorly fitting masks are the magic bullet that's going to save somebody's life.
 

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In regards to the original post, we might eschew Thanksgiving as it's really not a very important holiday other than eating. I can do that any day of the year.

Today our office had to close unexpectedly as one employee went to Florida without telling his superiors and didn't quarantine and was in the office more than usual this week with minimal mask use. I like the guy but thanks for making us all have to suffer for your trip south to get a dog.
 

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Look at it this way, 3,000 Americans died on 9/11 and conservatives had no problem taking extraordinary measures. But 215,000 Americans died from COVID-19 and you can't be inconvenienced. Go figure...
Why didn't you care when democratic governors sent tens of thousands to their premature deaths? Liberals had no problem with this. They can't be inconvenienced by the truth. Go figure....
 

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My 65 year old brother had some flu like symptoms and got a test. He tested positive.
Had a fever for 2-3 days, sore and tired like any other flu and feels fine now.

My buddies 55 year old wife experienced similar, headaches, feeling a little poorly, got a test and tested positive.
2-3 Days later and she was fine, minimal problems.

Heck, Trump got through it rapidly and pretty unscathed and he's mid 70's plus a bit overweight.

It's just not near as dangerous as they are making it out to be.
Certainly not dangerous enough to continue this mask and business shutdown program.
 

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My 65 year old brother had some flu like symptoms and got a test. He tested positive.
Had a fever for 2-3 days, sore and tired like any other flu and feels fine now.

My buddies 55 year old wife experienced similar, headaches, feeling a little poorly, got a test and tested positive.
2-3 Days later and she was fine, minimal problems.

Heck, Trump got through it rapidly and pretty unscathed and he's mid 70's plus a bit overweight.

It's just not near as dangerous as they are making it out to be.
Certainly not dangerous enough to continue this mask and business shutdown program.
I get your point but three examples shouldn't be enough to base a conclusion from. I could cite three examples who ended up dead and then we'd be deadlocked.
 

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You can't logically compare terrorism and Covid. One is a force of nature, one is a social movement. If we don't put on masks and don't use ridiculous policies that cause trauma to people's lives, it does nothing to empower a virus, the virus doesn't care. If we apologized to terrorists, and send them money in apology for being horrible American infidels, it would strengthen and encourage them. Two entirely different battles, on two entirely different fronts. Death numbers mean nothing. Fly a plane into a building, build and deploy a nuclear weapon, both have different death tolls, but you can stop terrorists in between those two points. There is absolutely nothing that humans can do to prevent old sick people from dying. We can shift the causative agent around a little, but they will die from something, around 78 years old on average.
 

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You can't logically compare terrorism and Covid. One is a force of nature, one is a social movement. If we don't put on masks and don't use ridiculous policies that cause trauma to people's lives, it does nothing to empower a virus, the virus doesn't care. If we apologized to terrorists, and send them money in apology for being horrible American infidels, it would strengthen and encourage them. Two entirely different battles, on two entirely different fronts. Death numbers mean nothing. Fly a plane into a building, build and deploy a nuclear weapon, both have different death tolls, but you can stop terrorists in between those two points. There is absolutely nothing that humans can do to prevent old sick people from dying. We can shift the causative agent around a little, but they will die from something, around 78 years old on average.
I can't tell dad that. He's 77 and uses the largest weed eater stihl makes!
 

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Happy belated birthday. You could do what's best for you in your situation, perhaps by self-isolating or whatever makes you feel safer.

And let the rest of us do what's best for us.
Except he went to Mexico and to the Casino several times in keeping with the covid program. Look in the dark rooms and you will see.

Holier than thou. Smarter than you or me. He has beat it with his 70 year old self.
 

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Shutdowns were an attempt to slow down and minimize the spread. It did not work because people did not understand the severity of the need to follow the protocols. The ultimate goal of the need to slow down the spread is multifold.
More like the government told us to get off our butts and go to work. We were essential after all. We needed to buy a Kia or a GMC. It was essential. We needed to keep those construction schedules. Cant pay for lost time. We needed our Starbucks coffee and our McDonalds. It was essential. I NEED my egg McMuffin I tell ya.

That is al I need to tell me it was false or a ruse.

The hospitals laid people off because there was not enough patients. ( I work at the hospitals so I know this for fact. Not just one but all of them in a large radius)

Dentists went to the golf course because they were not allowed to work.

How does a doctor do an exam on you online? Over the phone?

BUT.....you could sure go and get a Starbucks and an egg McMuffin after your "phone visit" with the Dr.

Aesop's fable #210........

Look it up.
 

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Thanks to the shutdown the hospital closet to us has shutdown half it's beds and furloughed or fired a large portion of it's staff. Now most surgeries and treatments have to go to the next hospital which is over 200 miles away. Even than it's a get in line and hope for the best.
Yes, That is never discussed on here as fact. It has happened all across this country though. Nurses and medical professionals have been laid off because of the pandemic.
 

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How does a doctor do an exam on you online? Over the phone?
I know that you're just being obtuse, but telemedicine is a good idea and it's here to stay. There are appropriate disorders for an online visit, and there are problems that are not appropriate. You might see a doctor online for a sore throat or seasonal allergies acting up, but you wouldn't use it for abdominal pain of unknown origin or a broken arm.

If you call for a sore throat the online doctor can prescribe an antibiotic and call it into your pharmacy. You can see a doctor online 24/7 and the wait is seldom more than 10 minutes. You can call from the comfort of your own home wearing PJs. My insurance covers telemedicine visits 100% with no copay.

I've never actually used it myself.but my next door neighbor has. She broke a blood vessel in her eye and the appearance frightened her. The doctor was able to see it with the webcam and reassured her that it would go away on its own. No prescription was necessary. Without telemedicine she would probably have gone to the ER.
 

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We don't stay home, wear masks and observe social distancing necessarily to protect ourselves, but to protect others in the event that we have unknowingly contracted the disease. You don't care if you infect others who are more vulnerable?
If the "vulnerable" stay at home, they won't be affected no matter what anyone else does.
 

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Shutdowns were an attempt to slow down and minimize the spread. It did not work because people did not understand the severity of the need to follow the protocols. The ultimate goal of the need to slow down the spread is multifold.
That's simply false.
Why parrot lies?

Dr. Birx predicts up to 200,000 U.S. coronavirus deaths 'if we do things almost perfectly'
Birx said the projections by Dr. Anthony Fauci that U.S. deaths could range from 1.6 million to 2.2 million is a worst case scenario if the country did "nothing" to contain the outbreak, but said even "if we do things almost perfectly," she still predicts up to 200,000 U.S. deaths.


Shutdowns now will need to be targeted at places where infections are ramping up to achieve the same thing for the medical staff.
Infections aren't "ramping up".
Testing is.

It fuels the media hype to pretend the number of cases is increasing more rapidly.
Silly word games.......
 
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Just more evidence that some here took it seriously and some did not and therefore while our numbers are better than they could be they are not as good as they would have been if the people of this country really understood and accepted the reality of how serious this virus is. Covid 19 is not the flu.
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We don't stay home, wear masks and observe social distancing necessarily to protect ourselves, but to protect others in the event that we have unknowingly contracted the disease. You don't care if you infect others who are more vulnerable?
I find it amazingly careless that your risking your life from what you seem to think is a almost sure death by relying on someone else’s sanitary habits.
 
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