What's wrong with people!? (vent)

Discussion in 'Countryside Families' started by Zipporah, Dec 18, 2006.

  1. Zipporah

    Zipporah Well-Known Member

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    Well,I'm in tears.I went to the store to get some things I needed and thought I'd go over to toys.While there an old man reached around me and grabbed hold of my baby girls leg and foot.I said "please don't touch" thinking he'll let lose and go away.I don't touch other peoples children and it's flu season and her foot goes right to her mouth.Instead he began making a moaning noise in my hear.I then told him firm to let lose,but he didn't so I remove his hand and told him to get away from me.He's moaning and grunting like a cave man I kid you not.My son is watching him and we get away to another isle where I see a manger.Since this is a store employee I begin to tell her what happened and how I think he should of let go when I asked him and how he did not and refuses to speak, just grunts. Then some woman comes up and starts screaming that I should not be allowed out at Christmas and cursing out loud using the "F" word about how I was rude to a sweet old man.I was so rattled I just took my children and left.Was I rude to ask him to please not touch? I used please the first time.I only got upset when he refused to let go of her leg or speak.I had to pull his hand off.I don't feel like I did anything wrong so why was some woman yelling at me? It just really upset me the way he was groaning and not letting go and then to get cursed out.I just started crying.What is wrong with people?What would you have done ?
     
  2. QBVII

    QBVII Well-Known Member

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    Are you SERIOUS???
    That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard!
    You don't have to have a "reason" to ask somebody to unhand your baby -- you're her Mother and that's that!
    The FIRST TIME you asked or told him to let lose, he should have immediately done so.
    And a stranger ran up and started cursing? That's beyond bizarre.
    I would call the store manager, right now, and demand to talk to them and tell them what happened!!!
     

  3. dagwood

    dagwood Well-Known Member

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    Pedophiles come in all ages......... :flame: :flame:
     
  4. patnewmex

    patnewmex Jane of all trades

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    I'm convinced that the world is already in the toilet and that there is no hope for the species called mankind (there is no KIND in mankind.) (read my "why does no one say thank you anymore" thread.

    That's my two cents. This makes no sense. Let go the child's leg and quit moaning!! Weird, weird,weird. As for the other lady, I can't even begin to imagine why any of that was her beezwax.

    :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
     
  5. Zipporah

    Zipporah Well-Known Member

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    It was just surreal.Dh thinks maybe they were trying to distract me and get my purse or something.I told the store manger and left.It was just so freaky.It's just upset me to where I don't want to go shopping without him with me.
     
  6. dirtundernails

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    He's fortunate. I (Hubby of DUN) know DUN might very well have laid him out. You have every right to not have your kids fondled. And, the store has an obligation to protect their customers from this kind of stuff, as well as the "psycho" who cursed you out.

    Please check your map, maybe you went to the local mental hospital instead of a retail establishment.

    HOD. (hubby of dun).
     
  7. crashy

    crashy chickaholic goddess

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    How scary!!! You are the mom period. The manager should have handled that better. I would talk to the store director or the main office on this one that is NOT ok at all. :grump: :flame:
     
  8. Jen H

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    That "sweet old man" is hanging on to your baby and grunting in your ear, and you're supposed to just be happy about it?!!! On what planet?!!!

    He's lucky you didn't dial 911 and press charges!

    The only possible explanation I can find for that lady's (using the term loosely) reaction to you is that this was her husband or her charge. Either way, she has an obligation to protect children from him. And the store has an obligation to provide a comfortable shopping space for it's customers. Having a predator loose in the toy section looking for children is not providing a nice place to shop. The manager should have escorted the man and crazy woman out, or called security and had them do it.
     
  9. tinetine'sgoat

    tinetine'sgoat Luvin' my family in MO

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    I'm just gonna toss this out there, I'm not saying what happened was right in any way, but my dh's grandfather suffered a severe stroke several years ago and grunts, and is slow to do tasks that are asked of him. He loves children and I could really see this happening with him. Is it possible that it was a stroke victim? I'm not justifying others actions, but the possibility that he really meant no harm.
     
  10. Ardie/WI

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    I would have started screaming at the top of my lungs, making a scene and causing all kinds of attention to be drawn to the situation.

    Better looking foolish than having unwanted attention from Lord knows what.
     
  11. countryheart

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    The woman had no right to yell and cuss at you. I think maybe there was a possiblity that the man was handicapped in some way and couldn't speak. If he was normal, what he did was inexcusable. The manager handled the situation poorly. I am sorry you had a bad experience.

    Countryheart
     
  12. All country

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    I was thinking along the same lines as tinetine'sgoat.

    It was not that uncommon for me to have older people want to be near my children when they were babies. Have you ever seen tears come to an older persons eyes as they inhale the sweet scent of a baby. I think it just reminds them of when they were younger and held little babies of their own.

    I will admit that the situation you described would have made me feel a bit uncomfortable.
     
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    If he is retarded or has some problem then someone should have been watching him to insure that something such as this hadn't happened. I'd have made sure the manager was aware of what happened and that it could stop me from shopping in their store again. Reaching around you to take hold of the child's foot and then moaning in your ear ............ that is just creepy.
     
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    No one would begrudge an elderly person being near their baby; but this scenario was flat-out freaky and wrong!
    She had every right to react the way she did.
     
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    He may have had Parkinson's disease. That would affect his ability to comply quickly with your request to let go, and might also affect his ability to speak. Did you notice if he had difficulty moving or an expressionless face or a tremor? Those would be signs of this disease.

    The woman had no business screaming at you.

    I have often found that the guilty will attack you when you point out their transgressions, trying to make it appear as though *you* have done something wrong by trying to stop their wrongful behavior.

    As an example, my neighbors 6 foot tall 16 year old boy was playing hide and seek at night with friends and was on my property in my rose-bushes at 10 pm. I walked outside, saw a 'man' in my rosebushes, and screamed. When I went to tell his parents to keep him off my property, they yelled at me for 'frightening their child'.

    They don't care if they are right or wrong, in their minds they are always right. The tactic is used to divert someone's attention to their own behavior and make them question their correctness long enough for the offending party to escape.

    The yelling woman was a diversion so that you would become confused about the incident, as you are now to the point of having to ask advice, rather than having the possible pervert ejected from the store.
     
  16. longshadowfarms

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    Just a thought, but we've hit upon it many times on this board about situations that come up. There is usually a VERY GOOD reason when we feel uncomfortable about a situation. We may not be able to put a finger on it or describe it but there are often things that our subconscious figures out that we can't quite completely reason through. I have almost never felt uncomfortable about the behavior of a mentally retarded person or someone who has had a stroke. Even without knowing the person, you usually don't feel uncomfortable. If you felt uncomfortable, then the situation was probably not good. The woman who verbally attacked you sounds mentally unstable as well. I think you were wise to get out of there ASAP.
     
  17. Zipporah

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    I thought maybe he was off some way in the head and that's why I stopped to tell the manger so she could go check on him when this lady came up yelling.My son tells me he saw the man speaking with some on another isle afterwards and that he could speak.It just freaked me out and then to have someone start yelling the "f" word was just too much so I left.I think Christmas shopping is just a bit too much for some folks.They're snapping or something. :shrug:
     
  18. ArkansasLady

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    ummmmmm was this man an employee of the store if so I would be calling corporate offices...
    NO one has the right to touch my kids...old, senile, feeble minded or otherwise...

    ~C~
     
  19. Beltane

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    I am so sorry that happened to you ~ I most certainly would have acted the same way. I would be petrified though…I don't blame you for being upset. How awful. :(
     
  20. Boleyz

    Boleyz Prognosticator, Artist

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    Am I the only person here who knows how to properly execute an "Elbow Smash" to the face? If that guy had reached aound me from behind and grunted in my ear...he'd have soon emitted a loud grunt as his front teeth hit the back of his throat.

    My wife can also execute an effective "Elbow Smash". I used to hang out in some rough places, and I found it to be very effective, and easy to execute.

    Also, you're not as likely to break your elbow as you are you knuckles when it contacts facial structures such as jawbones and teeth.

    Furthermore, If I'm going to have tooth wounds from the impact, I prefer to have them on my elbow, rather than my knuckles. It won't interfere as much with my work the next day.

    ANYTIME someone is "Reaching around you from behind" He's in the perfect location for a perfect Elbow smash to the mouth...