This actually happened on Roderick Island in 97 or 98. Greenpeace came on the island and climbed onto some logging towers and set up shop.Barbecue steaks directly underneath the vegan tree huggers😆
Why would you ask a question I already answered and then try to insult me because of your mistake?
Would proper forest management thin the trees via logging?
Have you ever logged on a mountainside? Understanding the cost/benefit of thinning versus patch logging is important to take into account. It does not pay on most mountain slopes and does nothing to clean up deadfall .
Good for them! Sounds like he had the right idea to shut the protesters down fairly fastThis actually happened on Roderick Island in 97 or 98. Greenpeace came on the island and climbed onto some logging towers and set up shop.
So the camp/ logging supervisor did put out a bbq and beer close to the tower and for a week taunted them. They also blocked access to the equipment so the protesters could not be resupplied.
I'm still reading up on the management stuff right now.
How does that have a bearing on CA/WA/ORGlobal burned area is down ~25% since 2003, but some regions are up.
In normal times, beetles are controlled by fall and burn. But this infestation got so large so fast, that did not work.I'm still reading up on the management stuff right now.
I know cold kills the beetles, but conversely does fire kill them also? Say you cut down and burned a few infested trees, does this also reduce population? This relates back to my original question of whether fire suppression may actually be helping the beetle populations.
And also. Regarding beetle killed timber, would those standing dead trees when milled produce lumber with a lot of holes in it? I understand these are supposed to be bark beetles but my question as to the quality of beetle killed timber remains.
Finally, if the quality of beetle killed timber is good then what on earth is killing the local trees here and making anything milled or cut into firewood look like Swiss cheese? There is no way the killed trees here are saleable
Thank you for the explanation. There is certainly something besides bark beetles getting the local trees.In normal times, beetles are controlled by fall and burn. But this infestation got so large so fast, that did not work.
The shelf life for beetle killed timber is approximately 15 years. Basically that means it is salvageable for 15 years. The beetles only attack the inner bark so the wood is not attacked as such. But over time rot sets in or the trees blow down.
Not sure what is doing your trees, but it sounds like wood borers, which bore into the heartwood and do make it useless.
Here in lies the problem they keep putting out the fires so the under scrub overgrows so the fires burn hotter and kill trees if they quit putting out the fires the Under scrub wouldn’t get so overgrown the fires wouldn’t Burn as Hot and Would probably go out on their own and there are a great many trees that need fire in order to grow properly in order to get the seed to germinateI belong to a group representing farmers and ranchers. I posed this question -
Can you folks in CA, WA and OR give us the straight story?
Are the wildfires due to poor forest management, an unusual dry season or a real long term shift in climate?
I got over 100 response in less than 5 minutes. The responses are still pouring in.
The almost unanimous response, opposite of what Governors in those states say:
Poor Forest Management