We lost our big boy Jed on Thursday

Discussion in 'Equine' started by painterswife, Apr 15, 2017.

  1. diffident3

    diffident3 Active Member

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    You make me feel sorry again.
    Would abstain from interacting for sometime.
    Meant no affront. Sorry.
     
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  2. Lisa in WA

    Lisa in WA Formerly LisainN.Idaho Supporter

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    You shouldn't abstain from posting, just realize that words on a screen might be taken differently than in person when you can see expressions. You sound like you have a lot of good advice.
     
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  3. Bret

    Bret Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Sorry for you huge loss. He was a Beaut.

    Perfect pictures. Noticed the flag too. Salute. Such a pretty background.

    All the best.
     
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  4. diffident3

    diffident3 Active Member

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    Yes I do and can be helpful.
     
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    Thanks
     
  6. aoconnor1

    aoconnor1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Diffident3, surely you don't need to stop posting, but as Lisa said, sometimes words come across in a way you don't mean for them to sound! I have had horses all of my adult life, as well as owning horses as a child. I have dealt with almost all illnesses and most injuries, as I do a lot rescue, rehab work for a couple of counties in my area, as well as several vets who have clients that can't afford the vet care long term on certain injuries, so they send them to me and I do the work for a lot less.

    I was not offended by your posts about my badly injured mare, but I was certainly put off by them! I knew what I was doing, I have world class vet care immediately available to me at all times, and I have done a ton of injury care. Kind words would have sufficed on that thread as I was deeply distressed over that mares injury, but not about the injury care, if you understand what I mean?!
     
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  7. diffident3

    diffident3 Active Member

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    I surely now understand .
    You are doing a very good job.
    I congratulate you about your noble work.
    You are a noble soul.
    Thanks for your kind support.
    I need to be careful about what goes into print.
    I am 70 and 6 days.
    Joined as Resident Vet in
    1972 31 September.
    Taking care of 85 yearlings produced at my Farm.
    Produced 12 Derby winners.
    Have tons of ideas experience and success stories.
    Travelled widely visiting farms in UK USA France
    Have transported accompanied Race horses from Delhi to South Korea Finally to Arlington Pasadena and Hollywood work via Anchorage in Cargo planes. Trained under Dr Steve Jackson at Kentucky Equine Research at Lexington ,
    Dr Redden Hoof specialist .
    This was to put things in proper perspective before somebody makes me look foolish .
     
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  8. TerryR

    TerryR Well-Known Member

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    Very sorry to hear this.
    I just lost my Arabian 21 yrs old to COLIC on May 29th.
    Thurs afternoon looked sick, called vet, he made it that evening. Tubed him, figured that would do him.
    Next afternoon got home from work, a pool of sweat in the barn. The moaning was horendes.
    Vet said he'd be there in 1.5 hrs about.
    Cricket took his last breath just as the vet pulled in the driveway.
    It was the worst thing I've ever seen. The pain was massive.
    I told my wife get rid of our pony Sassy.
    I was done.
    I couldn't go thru that again.
    I've changed my mind now.
    It sure does hurt.
    You sure had a BEAUTIFUL horse.
    Very, very sorry!
     
  9. Irish Pixie

    Irish Pixie Well-Known Member

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    I'm so sorry for your loss as well, Terry.
     
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  10. TerryR

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    Thank you IP.
    This thread has helped me to understand, and COPE with this.
    I feel terrible saying this, but he was much closer in my heart, than some humans I'm related to.
    He was a very GOOD horse..
    I don't mean to take over your thread, Painterswife.
     
  11. aoconnor1

    aoconnor1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    TerryR, I'm so sorry to hear about your boy:-( My condolences....it is so hard to lose one so loved.
     
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  12. painterswife

    painterswife Sock puppet reinstated Supporter

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    Terry. I am sorry. Your story is so like ours. I still miss Jed so much. My thoughts are with you. It is a devastating situation
     
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    MO_cows I calls em like I sees em

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    Sorry for your loss. He was a good looking horse.
     
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    2horses I'm a silly filly!! Supporter

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    I am sorry about your loss; I too have dealt with losing not just one, but two,in the last year. Both presented as you would normally expect colic to present - painful gut, rolling, etc. Except in both of my cases, it was not........

    Case 1, younger mare, my pride and joy and love of my life, named Becca. She became painful one morning, took her to the the vet, did all the usual, came home, several hours later just as bad or worse, back to vet we went. This time vet felt something different, we all thought twisted gut. I told them to operate, and when they opened her up, found a basketball sized mass had grown around all her internal organs, and there was nothing they could do. So we let her go. Her guts were fine otherwise. And so was my head, because I knew it wasn't anything I did or didn't do to cause it - it just was.

    Case 2, 32 year old gelding, Hank, down in his stall in the morning. Loaded up and went to vet, he collapsed as they were trying to help him. Hastened his departure to end his suffering. Vet was devastated, asked for permission to perform necropsy, wanted to know just what the hell happened. I said yes, go learn. Turns out he had a massive tumor adhered to the outside of his stomach that had ruptured. There was no saving him from that either, so we both got closure on his rapid failure.

    I know that not everyone has the luxury of colic surgery being an option, nor a vet that volunteers (begs) to do a necropsy. I consider myself fortunate in that regard. But it also raised a question I guess we'll never know the answer to - how many horses die from "colic", without it ever really being confirmed as a compaction or a twisted gut, which is really the only time it should actually kill a horse or cause it to be euthanized? I mean, it's not exactly a misdiagnosis, since colic is all-encompassing term for digestive upset, but rather an assumption that what presented as a stomach ache, was really that? And not something else entirely?
     
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  15. Irish Pixie

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    I'm sorry for your losses.

    Welcome back. :)
     
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    2horses I'm a silly filly!! Supporter

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    Lisa dug me up, it's all her fault!
     
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    Sorry to hear about your horses, but it does help to know. Your vet sounds like 1 in a million!
     
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  18. TerryR

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    Wow! 2horses, Thank you so much for that information!
    I'm so sorry, for your loss. Not 1, but 2.
    Totally unbelievable!
    Would have never thought of the tumor problem. But they are a MASSIVE problem in our canines also, so equines could be no different.
    My worst part was not bring able to put him out of so much misery!
    To sit and watch for 1.5 hrs, waiting on the vet.
    BIG lesson learned here. Thank you!
    Very glad you came and told us.
    And now I know why I couldn't have my 2horses username!
    I use it everywhere else!
    Thanks again, Terry
    Again, painterswife sorry for stepping on Jeds thread.
     
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  19. aoconnor1

    aoconnor1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It sounds like it has been a difficult year for a lot of us. I lost three geldings last fall, one in September, one in October, and one in November. I had to put a stallion down in February that was only wtih me 3 weeks. I just put down a 22 year old pony mare a couple of weeks ago due to severe hoof damage that she had when she came to me in January this year. It has been a bad year for me horse wise (not calendar year, but from September 2016 until now).

    I can certainly understand the pain nad sadness going on in so many people's lives who have lost a horse or horses recently. So sad....
     
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  20. TerryR

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    Wow aoconner1, I can't imagine going through all of that!
    My heart goes out to You!
    I'd give up for sure!
    I do know for sure the horses THANK YOU!
    Having a great home, that's what keeps me staying with them.
    I just enjoy having them around,
    Take care, and God Bless You
     
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