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I really don't care why he did it. They finally have one of these nut jobs in custody, I want to see what they do with him.
 

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is it racist to be concerned about ones safety in a group of white methheads? Or a bunch of outlaw bikers? Or is it common sense?
That's thought provoking. In discussions about racism, I've been told that if I cross the street to avoid walking through a crowd of young Black men, I am exhibiting racism. But if I did that with a group of meth heads or bikers, it's just common sense. If I oppose integrated college campus housing, I'm racist. If I accept the demands for Black students to have Black only dormitories, I'm "woke" to their rights to avoid white privilege. If I hire people for my business based on their skills, without considering color or gender, I'm racist and sexist if the resulting employment isn't representative of the community. When a white guy murders a group of people and most are Asian, we focus on their nationality. When 70% of all murders are Black men killing Black men, it isn't news. When 70% of all Asian assaults are perpetrated by Black men, that's not reported as a hate crime.
 

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That's thought provoking. In discussions about racism, I've been told that if I cross the street to avoid walking through a crowd of young Black men, I am exhibiting racism. But if I did that with a group of meth heads or bikers, it's just common sense. If I oppose integrated college campus housing, I'm racist. If I accept the demands for Black students to have Black only dormitories, I'm "woke" to their rights to avoid white privilege. If I hire people for my business based on their skills, without considering color or gender, I'm racist and sexist if the resulting employment isn't representative of the community. When a white guy murders a group of people and most are Asian, we focus on their nationality. When 70% of all murders are Black men killing Black men, it isn't news. When 70% of all Asian assaults are perpetrated by Black men, that's not reported as a hate crime.
Sounds like you have it all figured out
 

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Most of us have had it figured out. Then it started being redefined.
Maybe some have figured it out, and sit by and let it build
 

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Sounds like you have it all figured out
Not really. I've found that when I treat a gay guy like I would anyone else, that I'm accused of being homophobic for not recognizing their special-ness. If I expect women that enter the job market to compete for the job and compete for the promotion, even in male dominated employment, I get accused of ignoring the glass ceiling or some such nonsense. So far, I've been a complete failure in convincing and Black co-workers that the barriers they have faced, I too have had those barriers. I was born broke. I started adulthood at 18 broke and everything I have I earned.But for some, being a victim is comfy.
 

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Not really. I've found that when I treat a gay guy like I would anyone else, that I'm accused of being homophobic for not recognizing their special-ness. If I expect women that enter the job market to compete for the job and compete for the promotion, even in male dominated employment, I get accused of ignoring the glass ceiling or some such nonsense. So far, I've been a complete failure in convincing and Black co-workers that the barriers they have faced, I too have had those barriers. I was born broke. I started adulthood at 18 broke and everything I have I earned.But for some, being a victim is comfy.
George has it figured out
 

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I'm white and live in predominantly white, rural Midwest. I'm pretty confident a person of color; black, asian, indian, etc. could walk down my road without fear of much.
However, in many neighborhoods of color in major metro areas it's almost a given that if I were to walk down the sidewalk there, I could expect to be robbed, beaten or worse.
Meanwhile it's the whites that are most often accused of being racist.
 

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I know that there are racist people in our society. There always have been, always will. However, I see the media jumping on stuff to ensure that we are viewed as a totally racist society. The government does the same by dividing us by race, religion, etc. Exploit whatever they can for votes or ratings. While the majority of us are just trying to build a decent life for ourselves and our families
Reminds me of a Walter Williams story. As a young college student, speaking in class about a revelation he had, " I trust no one. As a result, I don't ever get cheated, but have few friends. My wife trusts everyone. As a result she gets cheated, but has many friends." Walter was feeling very wise. The professor asked if he'd considered the third option. That puzzled Walter, "Third option?" The professor explained, " Most people don't think about you at all." And so it is, while some worry about some hidden plan to cheat you, but in reality, nobody is paying any attention to you. Indifference abounds. Racism takes a far third in anyone's thoughts.
 

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I thinkbthat most people are indifferent.

Not because they don't care, but because they are busy living their lives and don't care what other people are doing.

For some reason, if you are indifferent and don't celebrate or constantly make others more important than they need to be, you are insensitive and bigoted.

Indifference isn't a bad thing in many cases.
 

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Racism and unwarranted violence (non-self defense) is never ok... ever. But I'm not sure if there are actually more cases or if the media is just reporting it more. The racial motivation and separation is out of control in this country and unfortunately, its working. I have never been more aware of skin color. I barely used to notice and now its the first thing I notice how sad is that? I think "are they going to hate me? Do they think I'm racist?" Etc. Before I would've just smiled and the amount of melanin in their epidermis wouldve only been noticed in the same way I'd notice hair or eye color... just a passing observation. Now, more than ever we are judging by skin color and can care less about the content on character... all in the name of anti racism...
 

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I agree with you Kate. I used to view skin color as just another variable in a person. Now I am more likely to notice if brown children are running wild in a store or if the driving texter is dark or light skin instead of their license plate number. I catch myself thinking more about a person's race now than I did 10 years ago.

It's sad really. People are taught to be racist, it's not something a person is born with. But with all the recent focus on race the media is turning all of us into racists.
 
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Your argument is a bit circular. If a person when to Reno and shot up a bunch of non-Asian women, it would be for different reasons than this perpetrator, because the original crime was motivated to target Asians.

If you are asking whether it is possible for a shooter of white people to be charged with a hate crime, then the answer is yes.
No, the guy had a sex problem, but if you want to make it racist, jump on the band wagon if that is what makes you happy.

Everything that White people do is not necessarily racist.

It is okay to be white.

Don't believe everything you read or hear on the internet.
 
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Your argument is a bit circular. If a person when to Reno and shot up a bunch of non-Asian women, it would be for different reasons than this perpetrator, because the original crime was motivated to target Asians.

If you are asking whether it is possible for a shooter of white people to be charged with a hate crime, then the answer is yes.
Wrong, the original crime was to target the Prostitutes that tempted the shooter. He was not looking for "Asian Woman".

Don't yell fire in a crowded building when there is no fire. That is wrong too
 

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Video shows the moment a crazed man wielding a pole trashes a Korean-owned convenience store in North Carolina while shouting racial slurs. Mark Sung, whose family owns the Charlotte store, said the Democrat who trashed their business was hired by a customer who had been banned from the shop.



“As he was trashing the shop, he was like saying racial slurs, cursing at us, threatening us,” Sung said. “And the guy that we banned ended up coming into the store, cheering him on and screaming, ‘That’s what you get, that’s what you get! Go back to your country!’ “

 
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Video shows the moment a crazed man wielding a pole trashes a Korean-owned convenience store in North Carolina while shouting racial slurs. Mark Sung, whose family owns the Charlotte store, said the Democrat who trashed their business was hired by a customer who had been banned from the shop.



“As he was trashing the shop, he was like saying racial slurs, cursing at us, threatening us,” Sung said. “And the guy that we banned ended up coming into the store, cheering him on and screaming, ‘That’s what you get, that’s what you get! Go back to your country!’ “

Obviously another "white supremesis"
 
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