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I do believe you missed the first two words - I understand entirely what the certificate means. For your edification, I was logically pointing out one substantiated reason that the certificate is meaningless. It's easy to go into more, although I sincerely hope you are not brainwashed by the media and can figure more out by yourself.
you completely missed my non medical point. Sorry you got upset---last thing I wanted.
 

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Could it be that these measures and the threat and talk of them is to encourage people to get the jab?

"Well if it's going to be required to travel, I might as well get it now while I can."
I know 3 people who were told by their employer "Get it or get out"
Big news about "hair discrimination" "racial discrimination" and 'gender discrimination". Yet, unvaxed (for silly little things like smallpox, measles, rubella and polio) are allowed to cross the border, yet the pressure for a flu shot (yes Covid is an influenza type virus) can cause a US citizen their right to work.

If my employer even hinted at that, I would reply about their increased odds of urinating upwardson a multistrand , braided piece of cordage than me doing that.
 

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In reply to a previous post with incorrect information.

Is the flu different from COVID-19?

Influenza (Flu) and COVID-19 are both contagious respiratory illnesses, but they are caused by different viruses. COVID-19 is caused by infection with a new coronavirus (called SARS-CoV-2) and flu is caused by infection with influenza viruses.
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I read an article on this. One of the statements they made was "it is already required to have a negative Covid test to fly into the U.S. from a foreign country. Made me laugh.....you need a negative covid test to fly in legally, but walk across the border and you are fine.
What's a person to do? Eh?
 

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This is upsetting:

“If it became a government mandate, it would go down a dark road very quickly,” said Brian C. Castrucci, who leads the Bethesda, Md.-based de Beaumont Foundation, a public health group funding Luntz’s research into why some Americans are balking at the vaccine. “It becomes a credential. It becomes a ‘needing your papers,’ if you will. That could be dangerous — and it could turn off people.”
 

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Legally come into the country. It's simply. We have rules and laws. If you want to be a part of our society, follow those laws. I don't understand why people can't grasp that concept
you don't get my manner of speech...it's a way of saying 'go along with the crowd'...it's said as a statement of agreement by Jews
 

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follow this: first our nation is in an up roar about the elections, then during this along comes covid (conviently or not), then the masks, then the vaccines and now a certificate to prove you had the vaccine...hmmm, follow the control, follow the money for the pharmies, and follow what will come form this new certificate...follow the tightening of control and the gradual loss of our freedoms. What the hell????
and when a government is involved (vaccine documents) you would essentially be making a contractual agreement with that government when you present your "papers", which would most likely include criminal liability for anything they deem to be false or inadequate...
 

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and when a government is involved (vaccine documents) you would essentially be making a contractual agreement with that government when you present your "papers", which would most likely include criminal liability for anything they deem to be false or inadequate
and when a government is involved (vaccine documents) you would essentially be making a contractual agreement with that government when you present your "papers", which would most likely include criminal liability for anything they deem to be false or inadequate...
[/QUOTEit was just announced on our local news that future gatherings like football games, weddings, restaurants and so on can be filled again as long as each person attending has his/her 'papers of certificte' for having both vaccines. Soon food stores and so on.....
 

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and when a government is involved (vaccine documents) you would essentially be making a contractual agreement with that government when you present your "papers", which would most likely include criminal liability for anything they deem to be false or inadequate...
We are all lawbreakers. There are so many of them (laws) that are selectively enforced and prosecuted. But, that is the point. They can choose who as an enemy of the state based on whether you oppose them or are a threat to them or may become a threat to them. They have demonstrated quite effectively how dangerous it is to oppose them even when it is not a law, just a diktat from your local or state party member. Anyway, it will all be okay, please remain calm.
 

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I don't think it is Pharma money moving the needle.

I think the Davos group has seen the success of totalitarian systems like China and have convinced themselves they can exert similar control, but in a more "benevolent" way, and make money in the process. It is for our own good.

You will own nothing, and be happy.
I already don't own much and am happy.
 

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A nationwide digital “vaccine passport" is being developed ,” The Washington Post reported.
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"The effort has gained momentum amid President Biden’s pledge that the nation will start to regain normalcy this summer and with a growing number of companies — from cruise lines to sports teams — saying they will require proof of vaccination before opening their doors again."

If a private business requires a person have one to enter, is that not up to them? And if you don't want a passport-your choice-just don't complain a business blocks your access.
 

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If a private business requires a person have one to enter, is that not up to them? And if you don't want a passport-your choice-just don't complain a business blocks your access.
No one has argued against that
 

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Whatever happened to HIPPA laws and all of your health information remaining private?
This new breed of woke socialist autocrats don't care anything about your so called rights. They truly believe that they know what is best for the poor ignorant masses. And if you disagree then you are some kind of a trouble maker who doesn't know what is good for you. You will be painted as a radical, right wing, white something or other, and the brain dead mob that lives on social media will go along with it. This is the new normal.
 

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Wonder when the "immigrants" will be getting their card? Oh wait they aren't being vaccinated just turned lose, positive or not.
 
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