Well, thanks for all the good advice to my thread post (about a month and a half ago) we ran buttercup the heifer with a Jersey bull and it took! She's expecting . So now I don't have to buy a new freezer! I guess the bull just had better timing than we did! I'm hoping I don't have to do this everytime but he "saved her butt" in the nick of time (literally! ) :baby04: Just want to say I really appreciate all the people on this HS board.