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Two is One and One is None....

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I have half a dozen canners around the house. I knew I was going to be canning this evening, so this morning I looked where I thought the largest double decker canner was supposed to be. Saw the lid. Ok, everythings right there. This evening, I couldn't find the pot... arrgghhh... Found a smaller one. Would take four sets of processing, so looked for a larger one. Dang!

Emergency Plan B... Use the virgin pressure cooker that I got in a major score last year (Grade School Teacher gave me most all of her household appliances, including most everything in the kitchen, And her prep gear...truckload of canning jars, three canners, and boxes of lids/rings). Took it out of the box, and it was huge one. I'll be canning till midnight tonite, a good 90 minutes for pint jars and a little extra. Got a large bag of pork yesterday from the butcher. (They waste a tremendous amount of meat... bad for them... great for me).

Thank goodness I had two large pressure cookers. I've tried over the last few years to get backups to everything. Tonite, thankfully, I'm being serenaded by a pressure cookers stopcock. (think thats what you call it).

Do you subscribe to the theory of Two is One, and One is None, wherein if you have only one of an item, and it fails, you're SOL?
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Seriously thinking of getting a second pressure canner for that very reason. And because I like to hear the regulators in stereo!!
yup...and I am looking for a second pressure canner myself.
Yup. I have 3 canners, and just ordered the canner weights and other supplies to bypass the gauges. Another week and they should be here. Than I'll be playing with all of them to get them all ready for canning season. I have a lot of meat in the freezer that I want to get into jars, too.

Seems like having 3 of everything is about the only way I can find ONE of something when I need it, lol.
I had 3. Put one on the lawn to wash it out with the hose,(canning in the summer is done on the deck), Dh driving up the hill didn't see it..... those things can't be straightened out. So there is 2 now. Cleaned out 1 freezer and shut her down. A friend emptied his freezer of all their venison-so that freezer got started back up. Now I'm going to cann all that venison, if it's frost bit, canning it will be good dog food. And a way to heat the house now that winter came back for a stretch.
I never thought of getting a second one - but that's a good idea. I was lucky to just get one of everything when I first geared up this survival stuff.
Yes, of course we subscribed to "Two is One, and One is None" especially with canners, canning equipment and firearms.

One thing I keep reminding myself to do is order a set or two of back up pump cylinder rebuilding gaskets. We'd be SOL if the pump cylinder in our deep well hand pump failed....not totally SOL, we could aways bail water from our home's drilled well, I suppose. But, it sure is handier pumping water from the hand pump.
I have 3...2 dials and one weighted....my friend has the large All- American that you can do a double stack of quarts in...
I also have two canners. One will do 7 quarts/9 pints and the other 7 quarts/18 pints. Either lid fits both canners which is handy. I detest listening to rocking canner weights so have stayed with gauges. I suppose it would be a good idea to have a kit to switch to weights on-hand should SHTF and I cannot get gauges tested each year. If I find another like new canner used for $5 or $10 (what I paid for mine) I'm going to pick up another one.

I was able to buy jars at a garage sale Friday. Got 2 pints & 17 quarts for $4.50. There were an additional 2 pints & 2 quarts that were chipped that went into recycling bin. I have the lady's phone number so may call her to see if she has any jars left and offer to take all for one price. She had quarts and I need pints but as with most preps its better to have too many jars. Also picked up 8 boxes of lids at Dollar General for $1 per box. May go back for more. These are Golden Harvest brand but I believe all lids in U.S.A. are made by the same factory. I've used Golden Harvest for many years without problems.
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I have 3...2 dials and one weighted....my friend has the large All- American that you can do a double stack of quarts in...
Double Stack of Quarts! now you've done it. I didn't know that...
Yup. I have 3 canners, and just ordered the canner weights and other supplies to bypass the gauges. Another week and they should be here. Than I'll be playing with all of them to get them all ready for canning season. I have a lot of meat in the freezer that I want to get into jars, too.

Seems like having 3 of everything is about the only way I can find ONE of something when I need it, lol.
One of my shtf (no power for over a week) plans is to pressure cook all of the meats in the freezer. It'd be terrible to lose three or four hundred pounds of prime meat. Freezers are great, but they're slaves to the grid.
Yes, of course we subscribed to "Two is One, and One is None" especially with canners, canning equipment and firearms.

One thing I keep reminding myself to do is order a set or two of back up pump cylinder rebuilding gaskets. We'd be SOL if the pump cylinder in our deep well hand pump failed....not totally SOL, we could aways bail water from our home's drilled well, I suppose. But, it sure is handier pumping water from the hand pump.
CF, I seem to remember working on one of those years and years ago, don't they have a leather gasket? or am I having a memory lapse.

My problem is I have to come up on some problems, before I even realize that there IS a problem, that I should have prepped for. Luckily, some of these problems are showing themselves, while it's easy to find repairs or replacements.
Yup, that's why I ordered two right off the bat. Now I have figured out that I can't use both at the same time til I get a hot plate because my range doesn't have enough burners to accomodate both canners & the pot of jars, & the pot of lids, and the pot of food being prepped... guess it's always something!
I have 2 water bath caners, thanks to the church garage sale a few weeks back. I'm eying a Presto caner now. I have a Mirro and love it, but it only does 7 qts at a time.....7 qts a day is rather slow (Ok, if I'm up at 5am I can get 2 loads through). I'd love an All American, but I don't like dial gauges and it would take 3 times as long to save for, which would be too late for this garden season.

I love the "two is one and one is none". I grew up in "3 or 4 is one and less is nuts!" I just can pack-rat that well.
Along with having enough canners to put up all the meat in the freezer should the grid fail for a week, think about how many jars and lids are needed, and what your power source is going to be. I am looking for a couple of those turkey fryers that run off big propane bottles - you can set the canner on the fryer base. I think I have enough propane on hand to can everything, but I can't say I'm certain, so more propane tanks, empty or full, are also on my garage sale list this summer. Empty, older tanks with an outdated fitting can be traded in for full Blue Rhino tanks that have the new fitting so they can be filled at the service station or feed store. I actually sent a good many narrow mouth quart canning jars to Goodwill about 5 years ago - wish I hadn't done that. :eek: I think I still have enough, but as I plan to be putting up a lot more jars than I used to, I'll be looking for jars, too.
Along with having enough canners to put up all the meat in the freezer should the grid fail for a week, think about how many jars and lids are needed, and what your power source is going to be. I am looking for a couple of those turkey fryers that run off big propane bottles - you can set the canner on the fryer base. I think I have enough propane on hand to can everything, but I can't say I'm certain, so more propane tanks, empty or full, are also on my garage sale list this summer. Empty, older tanks with an outdated fitting can be traded in for full Blue Rhino tanks that have the new fitting so they can be filled at the service station or feed store. I actually sent a good many narrow mouth quart canning jars to Goodwill about 5 years ago - wish I hadn't done that. :eek: I think I still have enough, but as I plan to be putting up a lot more jars than I used to, I'll be looking for jars, too.
Poppa always told me to never sell land, but it. Momma always told me to never sell, give away, or loan out canning jars.

I have free gas (and know how to turn the well back on, for me and me alone, if everything else is shut in. Backup tanks of propane, just in case.

Just yesterday evening I was looking for some 'downstairs' lids (didn't want to go up stairs to the two cases of wide and narrow rings/lids), and found 18 boxes of wide lids and 14 narrow lids (and have probably a dozen more of each in a bag, with a hundred used rings, somewhere in the utility room... :D)

My goal is to have a thousand of each. I figure I'm about 60% there.
Thank you for the reminder, Texican!

I like to scoop up lots of lids at the dollar-type store for $1 per box early in the season. I think they are usually Golden Harvest.

Besides the price, I like that they seem to have a wider ring of the sealing compound, too.

I store my "extras" in plastic containers or zipper bags to help protect them. Those lids could be very precious to me one day!
I have a lot of Golden Harvest pint jars with lids and rings that I got FREE at a food bank where I used to pick up the leftover bread to feed my animals. No one wanted them. The only reason they were "bad jars" as was written on the cases? There was glue that had dripped onto some of the jars. It peeled right off with a little finger pressure. Those jars and the flats work every bit as well as the Kerr and Ball brand. I've been very pleased with them and wouldn't hesitate to buy more of the flats if I could find them at $1 a box.

I always check at Goodwill to see if they have flats - often when someone clears out Grandma's house, they donate the canning stuff to Goodwill. These flats are usually the older ones with thicker sealing compound, and they are priced at .59 a dozen most times. The last time I found lids (flats) there, the original prices were stamped on them, and they were lower than the price Goodwill was asking. I mentioned it to the cashier, and she sold them to me at the original price! That was a bargain shopping day, as I think I paid about 25 cents a dozen or so - got a bit over 5 dozen flats, iirc.

Texican, I don't have near the numbers that you have, but I do have a "hamburger patty box" full of both narrow and wide mouth lids. I always remove them very carefully and tap the flat straight, line up the end all the way around, etc. I use these lids to can water when I don't have a full canner load - very seldom do I have a seal fail, and it gives me a source of sterile water for cleansing wounds, or for drinking/cooking in a pinch. Since I'm storing the jars anyway, they might as well be full. In case of freezer failure, I can pour the water into something else and use the jar to can up frozen foods.

I was in on of my decluttering phases when I sent the jars to Goodwill, and was not feeling the kind of angst that I seem to be feeling nowadays. Foolish, I know now. Texican's grandma gave good advice!
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Texican's grandma gave good advice!
Btw... when my grandparents passed, I 'inherited' all of their canned treasure. Brought a solid truckload of jars home. Most were filled with unidentifiable blobs... these folks remembered the Real Great Depression and never tossed food... it could as a last resort be eaten, or fed to the chickens or dogs.

I unloaded the jars in a far corner of my place, poked holes in the lids of the truly bad 'stuff', turned them on their sides, and let nature, bugs, ants, water, and weather clean em out. I did this after spending half an hour trying to scrub a single jar clean. A year later, most all were scrubbed to raw glass, a few with some light moss, but at that point, easily cleaned. I've been tapping that hoard for years. There's probably still three or four dozen there.
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