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Masks slow down transmission of airborne viruses. It is proven science. Masks are just one part of a mitigation process and not a single magic bullet. It has been posted many times in other threads.

Social distancing, hand washing and masks are each another layer of protection.
 

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I am not claiming any real knowledge. This is speculation.

Restaurants are occupied primarily by adults and each table and the items on the table are sanitized before the next customer. Playgrounds are occupied by kids running into each other and putting grimy hands on things, then putting grimy hands in their mouths.

Golf courses are open air, the players transport themselves in their own vehicles or walk. Nursing home residents are primarily transported or escorted outside, and it would take more staff than they had. (the logical solution was to allow family members, but.... hey... logic isn't in use in 2020)

What is it that you want to know about cheap masks that hasn't already been said?

The difference between now and March is the news media has changed their refrain (many times), the scientists, experts (haha), and doctors have changed their recommendations (many times), and after six months we still are doing what we do based on our own perceptions. (which is what we do all the time)
 
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"Can face masks help slow the spread of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes COVID-19? Yes, face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand-washing and social distancing, help slow the spread of the virus.


So why weren't face masks recommended at the start of the pandemic? At that time, experts didn't know the extent to which people with COVID-19 could spread the virus before symptoms appeared. Nor was it known that some people have COVID-19 but don't have any symptoms. Both groups can unknowingly spread the virus to others.

These discoveries led public health groups to do an about-face on face masks. The World Health Organization and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) now include face masks in their recommendations for slowing the spread of the virus. The CDC recommends cloth face masks for the public and not the surgical and N95 masks needed by health care providers"
 

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Social distancing, hand washing and masks are each another layer of protection.
Keeping your job is a "layer of protection" too.

The CDC recommends cloth face masks for the public and not the surgical and N95 masks needed by health care providers"
Yet they know those masks don't add much protection, and around 85% of those infected say they wore masks.
If masks work, end the unnecessary shutdowns.
 

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Trust the science.

“The study found [that most Covid patients] 74.2% reported wearing masks “always” while 14.5% wore masks “often,” or 85% almost always wore masks.”

Also, 61% of the patients had a “co-morbidity” condition.

 

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“The study found [that most Covid patients] 74.2% reported wearing masks “always” while 14.5% wore masks “often,” or 85% almost always wore masks.”
 

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So which statement made by the CDC was a lie? The statement that masks must be saved for medical personnel since they were in short supply or the statement that they didn't realize how easily covid could be spread?

The jury is still out on the effectiveness of face mask use by real people in real life; the same people who go out in public when drop dead sick and/or refuse to wash their nasty hands.

The CDC knew back in March how easily and rapidly covid could be spread. They also repeatedly said the extremely limited supply of masks must be reserved for those in the medical community. Even in this interview with NPR, the "experts" mention the shortage and how easily covid is spread by asymptomatic people.
 

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I would like to see some scientific studies on the effectiveness of masks as a disease preventative as masks are worn now, by the general public, on day 190 of 15 days to flatten the curve. It would be easy to perform, just offer $100 for a cashier's chin diaper, or the dirty mask out of someone's change cavity in their console where they store it between uses. Then just culture them and see what grows.
 

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Which statement is a lie? Hmmmmm. Not sure. My crystal ball is cloudy. (and yes, I do have one)
 
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Which statement is a lie? Hmmmmm. Not sure. My crystal ball is cloudy. (and yes, I do have one)
My daughter wants one but told me a lady she was going to buy one from said to keep it covered or else you can catch your house on fire. Still not sure if the daughter was messing with me but it cost her a crystal ball if she was ;)
 

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Masks slow down transmission of airborne viruses. It is proven science.



 

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painterswife said:
Too simple.

When the business or living causes damage to more than it helps.



See, the people can't be trusted to make the right decision.
WHO, CDC, the Federal government, they can be trusted.
I almost spit coffee all over my machine when I ran into this one. I am convinced this is sarcasm at it's best.
 

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How would you feel If I told you that person actually feels like that statement is true?
EDIT... the phrase from Painterswife is not what I was replying to. I know they believe that. While I disagree I would not comment on her specific post BECAUSE is disagreed. The one I tried to quote was... Now I can not find it. It was short by GTX I think but did not include PW's quote.
Sorry for the irritation.
I would feel they need to better express themselves then. I would never purposely hurt someone's feelings.
My feelings don't matter. Feelings, in general are fluid. Logic and facts are not.
Either way, speaking as one who is "high risk" for catching this particular form of "almost certain death", I don't feel it is MY job to make others uncomfortable in order to keep me safe. I and my husband are both at risk. We take precautions, recommended by his infectious disease specialist and move on.
That said, a good stiff flu might take me out too. Chances are probably even or tipped on the flu side.
I would like to see numbers of ACTUAL deaths of covid vs flu. From what I have seen locally and read the numbers are all messed up.Both TX and FL have had issues with accurate testing numbers. Double counts, mixed tests, some blank swabs testing positive. I know of one persons family who waited in line for a test, NEVER got one, left because they had to be somewhere, and were notified later they were positive for covid.
My point is, we don't have enough solid info. One day masks help, the next they don't. Then well they help YOU not spread but don't stop you from contracting.
Not enough solid ground, it is at the moment a mixed bag of swamp and sand.
The bedrock is, people have died and are dying. I feel for them and I feel for their families but basing policy on what we know now, at this minute is like building a castle in a swamp andn ot expecting it to sink.
 
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