training wether to pull & cart

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  1. Liese

    Liese Namaste

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    Hi, Was wondering if anyone on this list has trained wethers to cart. There isn't much on-line, although there are a couple of sites for harnesses & making harnesses. The nearby Oberhasli goat dairy will be kidding soon so I am looking to buy 1 or 2 to try. I am hoping to train to work both in the woods and in the garden. Also I would like any thoughts or pointers about keeping these eventually full size wethers in with my ND bucks; everyone will be disbudded. Thanks in advance. Liese, Piedmont region, NC
     
  2. moosemaniac

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    There's a yahoo group. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/HarnessGoats/

    The lady who moderates it wrote a short book on the subject and I'm sure you can buy a copy from her.

    There are some booklets out there too. I have a couple of them.

    I've got one in training and another I'm going to start this summer.

    Ruth
     

  3. motdaugrnds

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    Ruth, thanks for the link. I too am training a goat to the harness so as to have him pull my bailed hay from the pasture up to the barn. I am not using a wether, however; but a buck who has been trained as a caregiver. (He lets me lean on him as I go back up hill after working in the pasture.) I have the harness and reigns already and will check out that link for extra pointers.
     
  4. moosemaniac

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    A buck as a caregiver! I love it...except during rut maybe, LOL. My Bogart pulls the cart beautifully, we've been in some parades. He's still learning the driving part though. He still has to have a "head" person leading him, but we're getting there. What's fun is Jake who is not related to Bogart is a dead ringer for him. I can't wait to have a matched pair.

    Ruth
     
  5. pookshollow

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    I have a Nigie buck who lives with my Saanen buckling and my three wethers (all four are about 7-8 months) The Nigie has horns, the Saanen has scurs, everyone else was disbudded. I've had no real aggression between any of them, even though the bucks have been in rut. A certain amount of other behaviours, mind you :rolleyes:

    I would like to train my wethers to pack and cart as well, so I'll have to bookmark those sites!
     
  6. kerrinatoz

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    Thank you so much for that link! I really want to keep a couple of our first wethers and train them. I've been reading for quite a while about this. I have this vision of my two beautiful (goat) Nigie sons driving a red wagon with banners and all in the local parade with my kids driving. (ok, I know I'll be leading at their heads) but I just think it would be the cutest thing. I think this has been in my mind's eye since befroe we bought out does!

    Kerrin
     
  7. Liese

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    Thanks Ruth for that link, I had joined another Yahoo group Cart_Goat (or something close) but it is very quiet.

    And thanks PH for the info about keeping full size & dwarfs together; boys will be boys.

    Liese
     
  8. Mountaineer

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    Under what circumstamces would you have a goat pulling a cart? I'm having trouble picturing it.
     
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    Hi everyone,

    What a cool thread! When I was about 12 years old I had a crossbred whether that was about 150 lb. I trained him to pull a sled and wagon wearing a leather dog harness. He would pull square hay bales or a child. He wasn't trained to drive with reins but would run alongside you if you walked with him. It was such fun! I didn't realize this is a "real" thing that people do!!! How exciting! I am definitely going to look into it. I drive mini horses but they are a little too powerful and frisky for me LOL A goat would be perfect! What breeds excell in this?

    Thanks!
     
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    i remember when i was a kid, no pun intended, my mom told me about how folks would hitch goats to sleds to haul wood if they could not afford a horse for draught work.


    dean
     
  11. Liese

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    Well, for those who are wondering why? I am not a horse person but I raise a few goats and goats aren't too intimidating or eat much. Now we have this huge hickory tree, amoungst others that fell this summer and I have been hauling limbs up to be cut. As I am walking uphill, I am thinking that a goat could haul as much or more and if all I had to do was lead-wouldn't it be grand? To say nothing about cultivating the garden, so much easier to maneuver. I can buy a full size wether for $50 but even a green pony here is $5-600. , to say nothing of the larger feed requirements. I did look at Haflingers but a trained horse has had a lot of time invested and the price naturally reflects that. I was just hoping that others here had "broke the trail" before me and I wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel, after all goat carting must be only a thousand years old! Well, the kids aren't even popping out yet, so lots of time to plan. Liese

    P.S. I have figured from what little info on-line there is that a full size wether should be able to cart or pull 250lbs, maybe even a little more, terrain and strength training will be a factor I should expect.
     
  12. Mountaineer

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    Liese- I think that is a great idea. I scratch the crap out of my truck pulling out wood where goats would work. And all those unused bucklings- worth keeping a few around if they are handy!
     
  13. moosemaniac

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    A lot of county fairs have classes for them. We do parades.

    I think it's Hoegger supply that even sells a goat sized plow.

    Ruth
     
  14. cmharris6002

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    Here is our Nubian wether pulling the kids in a modified bike cart when he was about 8 months old,

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    We sold him as a cart wether that spring. Now he pulls an antique pickle wagon at renaissance festivals :)

    He was easy to train. We taught him to walk on lead as a baby, he was bottlefed so he wanted to come with us everywhere anyway. Then we put a dog sled harness on him and hooked him to the cart my husband rigged up. We walked him without a load a few times then walked him on lead with a kid in the cart. Soon, I didn't need the lead and he responded to the rope at the tail end of the harness, the kids would pile in and off they'd go. The whole process took 4 or 5 20 min. sessions starting with him walking well on lead.

    Christy