I have an almost three year old that I am trying to train for milking. This is her third time freshening. She freshened on Dec. 29, 2004 with twin bucks. Both ahve been wethered and are still on her. This doe comes out of a line of very flighty animals. Her grandam was a stray goat with infected horn areas that we took in. Her previous owner had had her dehorend as an adult and the area became infected. We treated it, looked for an owner (didn't contact the sale barn though, which is where she most likely came from), and decided to keep her. She was overly weary of men and overall a flighty doe. We could catch her though. She was here for about two or three years and had a couple of daughters. Well, she aparently taught these daughters to be flighty as well and every generation since her has been flighty. Not very friendly or calm. Jumpy, hard to catch. We keep them anyway because it is a decent line of does. Our kids are dam-raised. So Liliana is the third geenration and when she was in the barn last year she calmed down considerably, and has clamed down even more this year. She is not taking to the idea of being milked, however. She will come over, jump up on the makeshift milkstand (no stanchion as of yet, that is my next step in trying to work with her), eat her feed and doesn't freak out too badly when I touch her. I feed her on the milk stand twice a day and "milk" her once a day, sometimes twice. Her teats are smaller and harder for my numb fingers to a get a good grip on. That and she dances around when I try to milk her. I have been milking her and Danielle into a plastic calf bottle because the milk is currently going to a kid. I had hoped to use thier milk for soap and so need to get her to the point where I can milk both sides at once into a pan or bucket set underneath of her. I have been successful in getting a pretty even milking going at times on one side and she will stand and present for it...she also tends to lean her full weight on me at that point. So after all that rambling, my question is this; For those who hand milk does, how do you break them in, so to speak? Cows I can handle, because I can get a better grasp on them, with the does, they are much smaller and bounce around more. Should I simply keep on doing what I am currently doing and she should calm down? Have you had does this flighty? How long did they take to calm down. I am well aware each animal is different, I am simply trying to get a feel of how long it will be before I can successfully milk her like I do Danielle. Thanks for any advice!