I noticed my three FF does with kids had tight abdomens this morning, but my two milkers did not. Huh? Notice I'm not using the "b" word . . . This evening, I read about the "b" word, causes and treatment. First, all does have EXACTLY the same diet; an organic grain/mineral concentrate the prev owner fed them, grass hay and alfalfa pellets. The milking does get perhaps another pound of grain than the nursing does, who have 3 month kids who nurse very little. I've owned them since 6/28/06. So these three gals look like they swallowed giant footballs. It was subtle this morning, but no missing it tonight. Abdomen is tight, but I hear borborygmies and all three burped a few times when I observed them. They are active, and when out of the pen, headed for the grain can as if starving to death (in other words, NORMAL). There is no chance they got into the grain, it is outside the pen. THey've been in the pen now without coming out to browse for several days as we have construction going on. The only difference in their diet is perhaps the quality and/or types of grasses in their hay, and they get alfalfa pellets instead of alfalfa hay. The hay was cut, cured and baled well over a week ago, and is green but well cured, looks like mostly timothy, a little clover, stray wheat stalks, a typical local pasture mix. So they aren't acting ill or in pain at all. They distention appears symmetrical, not pronounced over the rumen or bulging below the ribs. I know bloat can cause death quickly, so I made up gatorade and baking soda and one girl slurped hers down, and the other two I had to force a few ounces into. Mind you these are not particularly tame does! I'd just started handling them more intensely today too, being in the stanchion, having their udders touched, etc. Today, they got perhaps a half pound extra grain concentrate than usual during the handling. I could swear on my life they didn't get into anything, and they long ago mowed the wild roses and ferns in their pen. There are cedar, ponderosa pine and firs in their pen, and they chew the bark and nibble the branches. All girls have exactly the same environment all day every day, and the two milkers w/o kids have no distention. Well, there is one difference; the milking does are the queen and the very bottom doe, are fed separately from the herd due to pigginess in the top girl and the bottom one getting pushed away and getting nothing. They eat their evening grain outside the pen. The three does with big bellies still butt each other a bit, but unless I tie them up separately (which I am seriously considering until the feeding station is built) they have to share two large communal trays, three does and five kids. It's been dry and hot, no rain for over a week, typical for this area. I purchased them from a guy who lives ten miles away. I'll check them a couple of times before I go to bed, and around 5:30 am when the goslings wake me up, so for now I'm posting this in case there really is something wrong with them and I have a head start.