The way it should be

Discussion in 'Home Defense/Guns' started by Iddee, Jan 5, 2006.

  1. Iddee

    Iddee Well-Known Member

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    Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona ) who created the tent city jail has
    jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for
    them.
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    > He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails.
    > Took away their weights.
    > Cut off all but 'G' movies.
    > He started chain gangs so thae inmantes could do free work on county and
    city projects. Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get
    sued for discrimination.
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    > He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court
    order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV
    again only let in the Disney channel and the weather channel.
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    > When asked why the weather channel he replied, so they will know how
    hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.
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    > He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value. When the inmates
    complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you
    don't like it, don't come back."
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    > He bought Newt Gingrich' lecture series on videotape that he pipes
    into the jails.
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    > When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat,
    he replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of
    the inmates were in his jails in the first place.
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    > More on the Arizona Sheriff:
    > With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116
    degrees just set a new record), the Associated Press reports:
    > About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed-wire surrounded tent encampment
    at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to
    their government-issued pink boxer shorts.
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    > On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up
    on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degrees
    inside the week before. Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat
    collected on their chests and dripped down to their pink socks.
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    > "It feels like we are in a furnace," said James Zanzot, an
    inmate who has lived in the tents for 1 1/2 years. "It's inhumane."
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    > Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and
    long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna
    sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic. He said Wednesday that he told
    all of the inmates:
    > "It's 120 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too,
    and they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes,
    so shut your damned mouths!"
    > Way to go, Sheriff! Maybe if all prisons were like this one, there would
    be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should be
    punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for
    their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back
    in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford
    to have for themselves.
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  2. moopups

    moopups In Remembrance

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    While I agree that criminals do take a free ride via taxpayers money the real question is what are the crime stastics changes in that part of Arizona?

    If in the event the stastics are much lower this approach should be implimented country wide. But at the same time, issues conserning mis-accuzations of criminal behaviour should also be addressed. There are too many cases of mis-accuzation comming to the surface these last few years. The campaign should start in our nations capital, senators and congresspersons first.
     

  3. Madame

    Madame Well-Known Member Supporter

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    When I lived in AZ, old Joe had a rep for brutality - and was caught on film when he got mad at an inmate and broke his arm. I have yet to see any stats showing a drop in crime because of his jails.
     
  4. solidwoods

    solidwoods Ret. US Army Supporter

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    Prisons should be self supporting, no expense to the tax payer.
    How.
    Prison produces a product.
    The product cannot affect American economy in a way that is in competition with common commerce.
    The products would vary, depending on the location of the prison. Produce in it's climate, livestock in proper climate, a factory that makes furniture for state/fed supply system.

    The convicted receives the same sentence as normal, only now the time is work time Based on a 40 hr week.
    Example- Prisoner gets 5yrs @ 40 hrs per week.
    Now he has the option of working overtime to reduce the sentence. Get up early or work longer equals get out sooner.

    Prisoner will learn a trade. He has a choice of the work type he wants to do, and goes to that prison. He has a chance to learns a trade, a work routine, and work ethic. This offers a skill and a chance at simple social rehabilitation in a dignified way.
    Skills like
    building trades-they build prisons
    Vehicle repair on govt/state vehicles
    Forestry, working in Fed/state parks
    Farming, from vegs to bio-fuel crops

    Some of the products like foods could be put into the welfare/food stamp/WIC concept. So instead of welfare defrauding of selling food stamps for $.50 on the dollar, the welfare recipient receives genuine foods (probably better than the food in the grocery that came from Mexico)

    Obviously this would only work for some prisoners.
    The work to out would be voluntary
    jim