The sad state of American Trucking

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  1. Heritagefarm

    Heritagefarm Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Professions come and go, markets fluctuate, and the world, well, the world in general changes constantly. Nonetheless, it's a sad state of affairs when America's most common job, trucking, is in peril. Trucking is hard, arduous, and draining work. Yet 1.7 million people have this job. Since deregulation, however, the trucking economy has suffered tremendously. Even worse, automated trucks loom on the horizon. Legislators would do well to begin setting up regulations to brace for impact. Unfortunately, we are much more reactionary and proactive. Shifting such a huge job market suddenly could prove disastrous for the country, and we are ill equipped to handle disasters at this point. We would do well to encourage better understanding of the trucking economy, and encourage legislators to do the same.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/...mtyp=cur&_r=0&referer=https://m.facebook.com/
     
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    We're probably a decade at best from wide spread use of the driverless vehicles. As it stands today, there are thousands of unfilled truck driving jobs to be had every day.

    I'd like to see our country rebuild the rail system and get some of these trucks off the roads period. It would make things much safer, plus eliminate a lot of the wear on the roadways.
     

  3. Heritagefarm

    Heritagefarm Well-Known Member Supporter

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    What do you think is responsible for the 80% turnover at the fleet trucking? Is it like a fast food job - low pay, overworked, miserable atmosphere?
     
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    The larger fleets are for the most part training fleets, and the new drivers get treated pretty rough, your just a number, your new to the life style (and yes this is a lifestyle career) some companies will keep drivers out from 3-8 weeks.

    I don't believe it's going to take a decade for driverless (although there will be a driver in the train) Europe is real world testing the technology now. I also believe there will be a need for people driven trucks in several of the niche hauling fields.

    I don't know where the author got the low pay thing if your willing to work you can make a really good living, the best is owning your truck and having your own authority tho. Of course finding a niche market and fulfilling it is always best.
     
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    coolrunnin Well-Known Member

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    Most people trying the industry don't realize it's a lifestyle not a run of the mill career!

    The pay is actually very good, it's a very regulated industry so you can't be overworked, the atmosphere is what you make it, after all you are responsible for making your working/living areas what they are.
     
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    The complaints I hear about are things like DOT hassles, weigh stations, log books (many going electronic), hours restrictions (even when you're not behind the wheel), and butt hole drivers everywhere (some of which are truckers).

    I happen to agree with the idea of developing the rail system much more, both for freight and people moving.
     
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    The complaints you are hearing are drivers who just don't want to comply with the rules. True you have to plan your trips, but what's wrong with that?
    There are no hours restrictions once you are off duty not sure where your getting.

    Butt hole drivers have been around since there where more than 3 drivers on the road. I will agree that the trucking industry drivers have changed from being helpful to being ass hats for the most part, but then that's just a furthering of society in general...
     
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    Lol well of course those who are happy with the rules won't complain!
    You have to admit there are some pretty stupid rules.

    As for the second part we have recently had two drivers issued citations for failing to record enough sleeper birth time. They had sufficient off duty time so perhaps that is what was ment ?
     
  9. Heritagefarm

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    Good to hear from the other side of the fence, so to speak. However I have heard from some truckers that it's hard to get good pay, if can be really hard to move up the ladder, and like the article said, the whole industry may soon be thrown into upheaval by auto driving. That couple seriously damage the economy - people really don't like changing jobs.
     
  10. painterswife

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    What ladder? You drive a truck. You have to put in the years and have a good driving record and you might get better routes but no real ladder to climb.
     
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    All I know personally, from friends who drive truck, is that it is long lonely work. That would be why lot lizards get so much business. I think couples who drive together may fare better than the lone trucker. Driving the big trucks is also hard on the body I am told with lots of back, gut, and kidney issues as one ages.
     
  12. Heritagefarm

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    So in your opinion, is it a dead end job? I know a family who has their own trucking company. They had four drivers and were growing fast in just the year or two I knew them. However, the article did also point out that it's hard to drive and go to college, even night school.
     
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    Do you think that's normal or would that be from bad suspensions?
     
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    Did I say it was a dead end job? I said that their is not a lot of room for growth in actual driving. You sure assume a lot. Driving a truck is driving a truck. Owning a company or being management are different jobs and you don't need to ever drive a truck to been in those careers.
     
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    Keep the truck clean, stay away from the truck stop "ladies", and don't get into meth.
     
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    disrespectful dispatchers, days at a time stranded out in the boonies without support, ...
     
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    You can drive on a road and not feel any bumps. Drive a truck and you'll feel every one. If you've watched the cabs on trucks you'll have noticed the cab moving up and down which is supposed to make for a better ride. Same with air ride seats. You're still constantly moving up and down.
     
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    If they had 10 yrs in any combination sleeper berth/off duty, how did you ding them?

    And how does a non law enforcement entity issue citations?

    I will admit I don't agree with all the rules, but for the most part the rules are fair.
     
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    Well they only had 11 HOURS logged off duty. The issuing officer claimed that since they didn't log any sleeper time they could have spent the time in the casino.
    That's the basis the citation was issued on.
    And yes we know it legal to spend you off duty time in a casino but that's what the officer said.
     
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    That seem like a pretty rude and disrespect full thing to say.
     
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