[Paumon]

You're not intuitive. Just hateful and probably jealous.

Awwww shucks. Y'all are just saying that because you're intolerant of the nerve of anybody else not worshipping your hero and expressing an opposite opinion about him.

Isn't that intolerant attitude the antithesis of the free speech rights that Musk says he's promoting by buying off Twitter?

I'm not jealous of him, I'm disappointed in him.

Believe it or not there was a time once when I was proud of Musk as a Canadian before his successes went to his head. Before he started riding rough shod over and abusing other people who fall all over and bow to him in exchange for being bought off. He was always a little bit quirky as a child protege but he used to be a nice boy before he started getting weird with his fantasies and morally corrupted.

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[Adirondackian]

Doesn't matter that Elon is working on a "chip". He's not the only one working on it. Who here thinks that if Elon was to quit working on it that it will go away?

No one in their right mind.

Whats that got to do with Elon Musk? Its like saying if Al Capone stopped his rackets, somebody else would do it anyway. That doesnt make Al Capone a good guy.

Its not a matter of brain chips "going away". The point is, working on a brain chip demonstrates something about his values, his ideals, and his ethics. Its shows me where he stands.

He's not pouring his investment money into privacy apps or technologies to protect people from data collection and spying, right? Do you think what a person does, where he invests his time and money demonstrate something about his world views? Of course it does.

No sane person would refute it.

 

[Adirondackian]

I don't want one and I didn't/won't get one. Nothing says anyone has to have one... it may be inconvenient for someone to not have a cell phone, but it isn't a requirement.

Of course my ability to "function in today's society" is debatable... on a number of levels

I dont have either but I can point you to a recent thread here where a number of people said they simply "HAD to" have one to run their business or keep in touch. It doesnt matterthat there will be a small number of die hard hold outs like you and me, many people are forced [ by their own admission ] to have cellphones.

And maybe in the same way they'll be forced to have a brain chip. And if you think that wont effect you or me or the direction of the world, you're mistaken. I dont believe in blind libertarian absolutism, you have to look at where things are going.

Remember the famous communist quote; "We'll hang the last capitalist with the rope he sells us."

 

[Adirondackian]

Exactly right. This falls under the work on transhumanism.

Here is a list of activities within that discipline.

Top Ten Transhumanist Technologies

Transhumanists advocate the improvement of human capacities through advanced technology. Not just technology as in gadgets you get from Best Buy, but technology in the grander sense of strategies for eliminating disease, providing cheap but high-quality products to the world’s poorest, improving...

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Right, he's a key figure in the transhumanist movement. There you go.

 

[GunMonkeyIntl]

Awwww shucks. Y'all are just saying that because you're intolerant of the nerve of anybody else not worshipping your hero and expressing an opposite opinion about him.

Isn't that intolerant attitude the antithesis of the free speech rights that Musk says he's promoting by buying off Twitter?

I'm not jealous of him, I'm disappointed in him.

Believe it or not there was a time once when I was proud of Musk as a Canadian before his successes went to his head. Before he started riding rough shod over and abusing other people who fall all over and bow to him in exchange for being bought off. He was always a little bit quirky as a child protege but he used to be a nice boy before he started getting weird with his fantasies and morally corrupted.

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Nobody here is “worshipping” him, and nobody is offended that someone is expressing a negative opinion of him. Several of us are just embarrassed for you that you see yourself fit to pass judgement on him based on nothing more than what you claim to be able to see in his eyes.

After several posts on the matter, you haven’t managed to provide anything supporting your negative opinion other than that he gave his children unusual names.

The reality of the situation is clear. You hate Elon Musk, and don’t really have a reason to other than that, once he took a stand against the leftist censorship of Twitter, your TV told you that he’s a bad man, and you dutifully obliged, even at the peril of making yourself look silly.

 

[HDRider]

Right, he's a key figure in the transhumanist movement. There you go.

Have you studied much on transhumanism?

 

[GTX63]

Nobody here is “worshipping” him, and nobody is offended that someone is expressing a negative opinion of him. Several of us are just embarrassed for you that you see yourself fit to pass judgement on him based on nothing more than what you claim to be able to see in his eyes.

After several posts on the matter, you haven’t managed to provide anything supporting your negative opinion other than that he gave his children unusual names.

The reality of the situation is clear. You hate Elon Musk, and don’t really have a reason to other than that, once he took a stand against the leftist censorship of Twitter, your TV told you that he’s a bad man, and you dutifully obliged, even at the peril of making yourself look silly.

Say during the Covid panic a member here on HT stated that she had no problem with the anti vaxxers being fired from their jobs, refused medical treatment or admittance to a doctors office, permitted to enter grocery stores, restaurants, movie theatres, run their businesses, let their children go to school, visit family in nursing homes or hospice wards.

"Oh well, sucks to be you antivaxxer" was her general attitude. When confronted with her past statements, she simply said she didn't recall saying those things; might have, makes sense and so what?
Now, most people would consider a leader that says such things and does such things to be considered maniacal and evil. How do their minions rate for the same ideology?
In this example, we don't need to see their eyes, just the words they wrote.

 

[Adirondackian]

Have you studied much on transhumanism?

Yes. Im aware of the promises, but more importantly, Im aware of the pitfalls. Im also aware of the background and political alignments of those who espouse it.

 

[mreynolds]

Whats that got to do with Elon Musk? Its like saying if Al Capone stopped his rackets, somebody else would do it anyway. That doesnt make Al Capone a good guy.

Its not a matter of brain chips "going away". The point is, working on a brain chip demonstrates something about his values, his ideals, and his ethics. Its shows me where he stands.

He's not pouring his investment money into privacy apps or technologies to protect people from data collection and spying, right? Do you think what a person does, where he invests his time and money demonstrate something about his world views? Of course it does.

No sane person would refute it.

Where did I say he was a good or bad guy? I only said that doesn't matter how anyone feels about Musk, it will happen anyway. While you and others are focusing on Elon, there are many more people in this world to be worried about.

 

[HDRider]

Yes. I'm aware of the promises, but more importantly, I'm aware of the pitfalls. I'm also aware of the background and political alignments of those who espouse it.

Can you elaborate?

I sum it up as man's continued quest for immortality.

The debate is when does man transform into a machine. Can a machine contain a man's soul?

 

[GTX63]

Where did I say he was a good or bad guy? I only said that doesn't matter how anyone feels about Musk, it will happen anyway. While you and others are focusing on Elon, there are many more people in this world to be worried about.

 

[GTX63]

Can you elaborate?

I sum it up as man's continued quest for immortality.

The debate is when does man transform into a machine. Can a machine contain a man's soul?

I would ask you to elaborate. How do you mean "man" specifically? You? Me? Mankind as a whole?

 

[HDRider]

I would ask you to elaborate. How do you mean "man" specifically? You? Me? Mankind as a whole?

I am not sure if there are efforts underway to aggregate "man".

When I say man, I am speaking about an individual person.

 

[Liza007]

He's fact checking Hillary and Biden
Absolutely hysterical.
His money, God bless, have fun.

 

[GTX63]

Uh oh. Looks like the Twitter is at it again.

 

[wr]

LOL. Meet Musk's 10 children and the names he has given them:

Who are Elon Musk’s kids? His 10 children’s names, ages and mothers

The Tesla mogul and one of his top Neuralink executives, Shivon Zilis, reportedly welcomed twins in November 2021. Meet Musk’s family.

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You should see his women. He's stated elsewhere that he's aiming at having at least 20 children regardless of however many other baby mamas he has to discard in order to achieve that goal (like the last 3 baby mamas he's already discarded so far). Even if I didn't already know what a fruit cake he is, after learning the de-humanizing names he's given to some of his most recent kids born it wouldn't have surprised me to learn that at least one of his oldest children at the age of 18 filed to denounce and disown Musk. I won't be surprised if most of his children have denounced him at the time they reach their age of majority.

I don't trust him, that is my prerogative.

Be honest now - do you trust him? Do you know what all of his so far stated goals are for human society and for the fate of planet Earth? If you don't know then it might be a good idea for you to make an effort to discover for yourself what he really is before putting your trust in him.

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I neither trust or distrust him and his personal life is really none of my business but when it comes to odd, or as you call them, dehumanizing names, he seems to be one in a long list of celebrities. I'm not a huge fan of Prince, Bear Blu, Apple, Sparrow, Monday, Sunday, True, Chicago, North or any one of a number of other 'artsy' ideas.

 

[homesteadforty]

LOL. Meet Musk's 10 children and the names he has given them:

Who are Elon Musk’s kids? His 10 children’s names, ages and mothers

The Tesla mogul and one of his top Neuralink executives, Shivon Zilis, reportedly welcomed twins in November 2021. Meet Musk’s family.

pagesix.com

I fail to see the significance of the number of children he has or the names he has given them.

Be honest now - do you trust him? Do you know what all of his so far stated goals are for human society and for the fate of planet Earth? If you don't know then it might be a good idea for you to make an effort to discover for yourself what he really is before putting your trust in him.

Do I trust him... as much as any other person I don't know and have never had any dealings with.

Here we go, meet his baby mamas so far, first on the list being the one he refers to as his "starter wife". Elon Musk’s dating and relationship history: His girlfriends and wives

I fail to see the significance of the number of wives/girlfriends he has had.

 

[homesteadforty]

I don't have a problem with it and I don't care if some other people do. Yes and yes to your other two questions. Most animals possess the same facility through both the visual cues and sense of smell. In humans reading the eyes and body/facial language is a primitive visual recognition facility

Reading body language is not the same as judging someone's mental status by their looks.

Do you have animals? If you do then go look into their eyes and hold the eye contact for a few seconds and see if you get a sense of what they are thinking about you. If you have the trait you will get a message from their eyes and certain facial movements about their thoughts about you.

I have 6 horses... including a stallion, 4 cows... including a bull, 11 sheep... including a ram, 9 dogs... including 3 intact males (Anatolian LGD's, protection trained German Shepherds, and Mountain Curs). I also have one mean, cantankerous old donkey. If I couldn't read their body language I'd likely have been seriously injured by now.

BTW..;. both the meanest horse and the meanest dog I ever had were beautiful animals. If fact, they were both show prize winners.

 

[homesteadforty]

Awwww shucks. Y'all are just saying that because you're intolerant of the nerve of anybody else not worshipping your hero and expressing an opposite opinion about him.

I agree with @kinderfeld.

I worship no man... in fact I don't even like most (by far). I also have no "heroes". I am pretty intolerant of bigotry though.

 

[GunMonkeyIntl]

I don’t Twitter, but I’m thinking about joining just so I can read deeper on some of the threads.

I spent about an hour there today, and what I’m seeing is kind of funny. Basically, some leftist says something crazy, expecting a wave of affirmation, but is getting to see all the disagreement, and are losing their minds over it. I read a couple threads today where the conservative sentiment far, far outweighed the progressive sentiment, and lots of progressives were complaining about how much had changed in the last 24 hours and were threatening to leave.

It might be worth joining Twitter just to watch all the Marxists heads exploding in real-time.