Temporary/Portable Garages

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  1. Ohiogal

    Ohiogal Well-Known Member

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    Have been looking at these kits...seems like a good short term solution. I have property taxes out the ying-yang already so constructing a shelter for my horse trailer and truck permanently is not in the works. I can get away with having this "temporary" structure.
    Has anyone purchased one of these, assembled and used it?
    Obviously, I'll need to tie it down with the proper hardware for the wind, etc.
    Also snow load could be a problem so I'm looking at the heavy duty ones with the 15 year guarantee on the fabric.
    Thoughts? Suggestions? Is it worth going this route?
     
  2. HermitJohn

    HermitJohn Well-Known Member

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    Orient it so prevailing storm winds cant pick it up easily. Elderly friend got one of these and wind (straight line wind, not tornado) picked it up and crunched it into a wad out in his pasture despite it being well staked. He had more than one and the others stayed put. Its really not good value for the money for what you get, I think, but maybe it is if its an end run around local real estate tax burocracy. Really sad state of affairs....
     

  3. Wolf mom

    Wolf mom Well-Known Member

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    Why not look at the steel carports? You can have them built the way you wish - with or wothout sides, color, height, length, etc. They're super strong and are not taxable - at least where I live. The side posts are anchored into the ground. Probably not considered as permenant buildings as the anchors can be removed & the carport can be slid someplace else or torn down & rebuilt. (Not that I'd want to slide a 28 ft bldg)

    I have horribly high winds here. Nothing tarp/fabric like lasts past a couple years. "Roofs", not buildings, are taxed here so... That was my solution.
     
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    Two years ago I purchased one from Tractor Supply to use as an animal shelter for goats and a pig. We used pallets to make the stalls and it has been the best investment I've ever made. I needed a barn but didn't want my taxes to go up nor did I have the money for a new barn. I live in Upstate NY and we get lots of snow. The load did not bother it at all because the steel polls used for support are very sturdy and quite heavy. Because of the pallets we used for the stalls it will not fly away. Both ends open for fresh air and excess to the inside. We paid are $350 dollars for it.
     
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    I would love to see pictures of this set up!
     
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    I remember trying to get one lashed to a convenient tree in a thunderstorm so it would stop blowing around the barnyard. I can tell you the chickens inside it were perturbed too.

    Dan
     
  7. Bearfootfarm

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    I have one 12 X 20 that I use for my tractor and sometimes hay
    I used anchor bolts to secure it to a concrete pad, and it has withstood 90 mph winds so far.
    I can't tell you much about snow loads. The most we've had since I got it is 6"


    http://www.shelterlogic.com/custom_roundtop.html
     
  8. foxtrapper

    foxtrapper Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I've used them for years. Spend an extra hundred dollars and buy a good one, not the lightest flimsiest one. Got one that has been up for something like 5 years now, doing just fine.

    Anchor well. I use 18 or 24 inch rebar stakes, cross anchored. It's held mine down in a hurricane. Literally.

    Beware snow. No big deal, but pull it off. It's a lot of weight, and it sags the fabric down between the poles. Just use a broom to pull it off, and all is well.
     
  9. Navotifarm

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    Several of my neighbors had them but did NOT beware the big snow we had this winter. Theirs were crushed and unsalvageable. I notice they are aLl rebuilding with wood. Of course, we never had a snow like that before.
     
  10. jill.costello

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    I used one, and loved it for my hay storage. BEST ADVICE I can give you is to buy some self-tapping metal screws and set a screw into the pipe frame at EVERY "joint"... The poles go together like that: the narrow end fits into a wider end of the next piece and so on; put a screw through each juncture.

    Then, to anchor it, get the longest earth anchors available (auger at the bottom, eye at the top, about 30" long), one for EVERY LEG and EVERY corner. Set them out from the perimeter about 24" out, and ratchet-strap from the top of the walls down to the ground.

    I simply could not believe how weather-tight and useful this thing was! Stored my hay, hand tools, wheelbarrow, and feed bins. (hay set on pallets).
     
  11. chewie

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    me too, would love a visual~!
     
  12. Freeholder

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    When we moved here, I got two of the Costco portable carport shelters -- about $150 each at the time. The tarps lasted about two years. I'd like to re-cover the frames, but am not sure what would be best to use (I don't want to buy the replacement covers, as they cost almost as much as a whole new shelter, and wouldn't last any longer than the original ones did). I'm thinking about putting greenhouse plastic on one frame, and would like to use the other one to store hay.

    Then I got an ag shelter, 12'X24', for the goats, and also have some rabbit cages hanging up in it. The tarp on that one is better quality than what came with the Costco shelters, but I figure it will only last another winter or two. I don't want to put up permanent structures here, because it will raise our property taxes (which are already high), and because eventually I'll probably be moving and want to be able to take my animal shelters and so on with me.

    I've thought of covering the frames with ferrocement, but that would be permanent and not moveable. Canvas tarps, painted, would last a long time, but are expensive (and heavy, in those sizes). Any other ideas??

    Oh, and I've found that if the shelters are placed with their sides facing the prevailing winds, they do better.

    Kathleen
     
  13. chickenslayer

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    I've got two of them, a 10x20 I keep garden stuff in that is 14 years old and aside from a couple small tears in the fabric it is in great shape, and a 14x40 I keep my boat in. As long as you anchor it securely they can take some serious wind. And after all the snow we had this winter I didn't have any problems at all.

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  14. Ohiogal

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    Thanks guys! Great advice!
    I too, would like to see a picture of the barn w/pallets.
     
  15. lasergrl

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    I have two of them, location is northeast Ohio.
    Got one 3 years ago, the other two years ago. The first one blew away the first night it was up so we got the anchor kit thats extra.
    This winter both collapsed under the weight of the snow and are trashed. They also will get a hole in them if anything ever touches the side for any length of time.
    I think that round top one posted would liely not collapse due to the shape, but its alot more exensive too.
     
  16. Bandit

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    As a sideline to our canopy rental business I have built a couple for salt sheds here in Mass. for friends , but they are not cheap as I use SS 40 galvanized fencing pipe at around $ 3.00 Ft. .
    I have looked selling the " Cover It style Shelter " but haven't jumped into it yet as people are still buying the ones at Sam's , Bj's , Home Depot etc. for $ 150. that Won't Take the Snow Load around here .
    For a decent shelter for the price check out Clear Span , it is three companies in one , Large Buildings , Garages and Greenhouses ,
    Clear Span , Farm Tek , Tek Supply , Growers Supply
    http://www.clearspan.com/fabric/structures/home
    They sometimes have close out's and samples/returns at very good prices under steals and deals .
    Bob
     
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    I have had 2 '12 X 20' "instant garages" from TSC. The first one came with 4 12" earth anchors. It blew away in a heavy wind storm. The second one came with 6 30" earth anchors, and it has withstood 60-70 mph winds. I do have to keep the snow load cleaned off.
    I put wooden pallets on the ground, and laid T-11 on top of them.....and that is where I have my milk stands, milking machine, etc.
    For the price, I am very happy with it.
     
  18. Freeholder

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    No recommendations on what to use to replace the trashed tarps? One of my frames is bent a little (as it did blow over one time) but is still usable; the other frame is fine.

    Kathleen
     
  19. Freeholder

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    And, forgot to mention, if I can figure out what to use to re-cover my frames, it may help out a couple of neighbors who also have frames up with no covers on them anymore!

    You do have to keep the snow cleared off these frames, but it's not too bad.

    Kathleen
     
  20. jross

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    Wasn't there here a post about used billboard plastic that can beused for covers and tarps. I think it is really thick. This the first site that came up when I searched used billboard material.

    http://www.billboardtarps.com/