Taxes in Oregon

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  1. bergere

    bergere Just living Life

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    Well, we are now in Oregon, in Columbia County. We just had the shocker of our life. We were told the taxes on the place we just bought would be $1362.00, like OK.. we can deal with that.
    Then I get a call yesterday and they said it is going to be $3600 a year!! Other than the house and land there are no improvements on the place, not even a garden. It is not a big house,, and it sure is not plated in gold.
    Oregon used to be not too spendy a place to live in,, but sure is not the case any more.
    That is a lot of extra money to come up with.

    DH was going to build me a little 4 stall barn next summer, and a Hen house, but I do not know if we can afford to do that if they are going to levy a high tax on those too., Ack~~~~
    They sure make it hard to have a small Farm. You would need the Goose that lays those golden eggs to make ends meet.

    Sigh ~ ~

    Other than that,, oh,, and the well.. the place is nice.
     
  2. MorrisonCorner

    MorrisonCorner Mansfield, VT for 200 yrs

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    You've got my sympathy, but my property taxes are roughly twice that for pretty much what you're describing! It is like carrying a second mortgage, but it never gets paid down and keeps going up!

    Somebody has to figure out how to de-couple local fund raising from the property tax!
     

  3. Terri

    Terri Singletree & Weight Loss & Permaculture Moderator Staff Member Supporter

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    You can, if you wish, appeal the hike in taxes.

    What I did was, I took the assessed valuation of the house next door, and a couple others in the neighborhood, and I used that to complain that they had my house assessed too high.

    They split the difference between the value of the houses I showed them and the value the assessor had placed on my house.

    You can look up the value of everyone elses house in the county records, which are probably kept at the county courthouse. If you can, try to find a few similar houses in your area that have sold recently.
     
  4. bergere

    bergere Just living Life

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    When we lived in NH,, the taxes were high, but not this high... but then again, we left there,,, humm... going on 11 years ago now.

    Sheesh,, with that kind of tax, I should have a nice barn, a good garden and sound fencing to go with it.

    If all Farms have to pay those kind of taxes,,, no wonder sooo many are giving up.
     
  5. bergere

    bergere Just living Life

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    Terri,, that is a good idea.. thank you for posting it!!
     
  6. Terri

    Terri Singletree & Weight Loss & Permaculture Moderator Staff Member Supporter

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    mmMMM...

    It just occurred to me that it might be diferent for you becuase you just bought the house. Assessed valuation is, I think, supposed to be a percent of the real worth of the house.

    You might want to find out what the percent is in your area, and compare it to the sales price. Not to mention making sure that they used the actual sales price, and not the sellers asking price.

    Then again, once your horses are settled, perhaps you could board a horse or two? I have noticed that the going rate of room and board for a horse tends to go up when the property taxes are high.
     
  7. MarleneS

    MarleneS Well-Known Member

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    Did you get something in writing prior to closing that stated what your property taxes would be?

    And it wouldn't hurt to ask the tax assessor to revalue you land -- that can sometimes be iffy...or maybe like some states the land use makes a difference?

    Best of luck to you, and if worse comes to worse don't let it take away the pleasure of having the place you've dreamed so long about.

    Marlene
     
  8. kate

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    right, it might certainly have something to do with the price you paid. if it was top dollar they will re-assess the property as to that value.
    taxes are terrible in these two states, but one thing you can do, is get into the farm deferment program, check with your county tax office. it will have to do with the zoning you now have.
    when you look for property in these two states and you wish to farm and can, the best thing you can look at seriously is property that is already in the county/state farm programs, then you sign on that you will continue that. taxes here in wa can differ as much as 2000 and more for the similar pieces of property, one zones whatever residential and the other in farm or ag............it pays to look...
    see if your county is on the computer as far as assessment goes, if it is, look up everyones taxes and zoning by address. it is eye opening. some counties are and some are not. kate
     
  9. YuccaFlatsRanch

    YuccaFlatsRanch Well-Known Member Supporter

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    High Taxes in the Socialist Republic of Oregon is something you chose Live with.

    For those of you in the North East - you choose that too.
     
  10. bergere

    bergere Just living Life

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    Thanks Kate,,, will check and see if they have anything on line. Also might just visit the nieghbors and see if I can be noisy about what they have to pay.
    I just do not want to be taken to the cleaners if they are just taxing this place high because we are new to the area.


    For YuccaFlatsRanch, I did not choose to move here, we did not have much choice in the matter.. and 20 years ago,, it wasn't like this.
     
  11. FrankTheTank

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    Not really applicable here, but in WI, if it is on wheels or skids, its not taxed(campers, RVs, etc). At the land we own, we have a camper, so all we pay is the taxes on the land (which are expensive!) but can be offset by entering into forest managment (you should see if Oregon has any tax reduction schemes). SO the taxes on our land run about $100/year (62acres). You could actually make money if you try.
     
  12. tobo6

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    I just remembered something that I forgot to post earlier to you. ;) When you go to the court house, have the tax people look and see if your neighbors have any of their land in forest deferel, a lot of times they will know it's the same kind of property as yours and after filling out the paper work will automatically switch you over. Or if the property was in the deferel before, that might be the reason it was cheaper. When you buy it, they will automatically put it over into all residentual zoning. Like I said earlier though, there is just a few months where they let you change the status so ask them when you can do it. We missed it the first year and had to wait until January to switch to forest land on most of the property.

    I also found the shorter/heavier set lady there easier to work with than the other one's, lol.

    When we bought the place, the one person that owned it had erected a two story like cabin on it, and used it for camping during the summer. It was very run down, when we asked to turn it into a home the building inspectors said no, because there are tree's right beside it and you have to have a boundary around any structure that is fire proof. We asked if we could leave it there, and he said yes, as long as there are no foundations. So, we fixed it up, replaced the bad boards. We needed no building permits, and it's fine to have here. Crazy how their thinking is, lol. As far as taxes, they don't know it's a barn so we are not taxed for another building! My opinion would be to build a barn, especially if you have enough property to be out of sight. There is only one person who comes out to check on codes, and they are too busy with new construction to worry about barns!

    Deb
     
  13. Lisa A

    Lisa A Well-Known Member

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    I got a shock two years ago when I found out what building a house did to
    our property tax. When I called up to find out what happened, they told me
    the process for review (as others have described). But they also said it had
    to be done that year, after that you were stuck with it.
    Since land values have gone up here SO much here, we are stuck; we could
    indeed sell it for that amount (or more). Things like buying a property or
    building a house trigger the change, so the previous owners might have been
    paying the low amount for a long time. Land prices are outrageous in Oregon
    now.
    We have a farm deferral, but the requirements vary a lot by county. Here,
    if you are farming with intent to make a profit, you can get a deferral on all
    except 1 acre homesite, and there aren't a lot of rules about earnings. In,
    hmmm, Clackamas county? you need to earn $2000 a year. The deferral
    makes a huge difference in the property taxes; my numbers are hazy now
    (it was well before the house), but I think it was $800 with deferral and
    $1800 without. (excluding the mobile home).
     
  14. boxwoods

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    Some people tried that here in NY a while back and all that happened, was their neighbors taxes went up :) ane they were not happy with the newcomers
     
  15. desdawg

    desdawg Well-Known Member

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    I agree with Lisa A. Property sits on the tax roles for a long time at the same valuation. So your seller listed the property for sale and stated the tax they had been paying honestly more than likely. The two main things that trigger a reassessment are the sale of the property and a building permit being issued. The County Assessors office usually doesn't have the staff or the time to reassess every property periodically so they use this method. I once heard the average home changes hands about every 7 years. So this keeps them fairly current given the time and labor constraints they have. In Arizona when you record a deed you have to record another document along with it called an "Affadavit of Property Value" which states the sale price and is signed by both the buyer and seller before a Notary Public. Other states probably have similar methods.