Strange goat problems

Discussion in 'Goats' started by Bunni, May 27, 2005.

  1. Bunni

    Bunni Active Member

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    I have one goat that appears to be blind or going blind. His eyes are not white, they look normal, and nothing unusual has happened to him. Is it possible to go temporarily blind?

    I also have a goat that has huge lump on her neck. I have seen goats with CL before but this looks different than that. It is below her chin on her neck and is doubling in size everyday. Right now it is about 3-4 inches in length. Could this be CL? Some thyroid thing? She recently had a bout with cocci that stressed her so maybe this brought this out?

    The only thing I can think of we have done differently is both goats have gotten copper rods in their sweet feed. Could they have gotten too much?

    Lynn
     
  2. Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians

    Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians Well-Known Member

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    Goats can go blind when they have polio. You can do a search for poliomyilitis encephalitis in this forum we have talked about it alot. Doses of Thiamin/B1 from the vet, every 6 hours, until he is completely recovered, or dosages of Fortefied B complex dosed for the B1 in it, aiming for at least 100 mg of B1 every 6 hours, so you would give 5cc per 100 pounds with the one I have, alot more if yours has less B1 in it.

    Does get polio from not having a good functioning rumen. The sweet feed is likely the culprit. Molassas builds acid in the rumen, acids which kill off the good bacteria in the rumen. Get some probiotics and give this to him.

    Nobody over the internet can diagnose and abscess, if it is in the lymp node section and the goat is new, than you can bet it's CL. If you have had the goats a long time and she or noone else is new, than it is unlikely it's CL because you would have seen abscess before. But fast growing lumps, in and around the lymp nodes is likely CL.

    Why are you putting copper rods on the sweet feed? You aren't copper bolusing your goats by doing this, in fact it adds to no long term help by feeding this to them. Same by adding copper sulfate to the water. They grind up the rods with their molars making them pass right through the system. When you copper bolus your goats you have to get it past the molars and right into the throat which is swollowed into the rumen. The rods of all differeing sizes lodge into the rumen meat. They are slowly absorbed at differeing rates, from the differening lengths, time relased if you will. With all of your ground by the molars they can be absorbing them all at once, either doing nothing for the goat, or giving them toxic levels absorbed all at once. Unless a vet has ran copper liver studies on your goats an you have been given specific instructions to do this by a small ruminant specialist, yes you could be seeing blindness from toxcicity.

    Reading something on the internet with no further homework on your part is not how you set up your manangment. Find someone in your area that is doing what you are wanting to do with your goats and ask for help. Join a club, ADGA.org, ask questions.

    Before the the abscess bursts, have a vet lance it or remove it, sending the contents into UC Davis only. Find out what you are dealing with before she infects your property and your other goats. Good luck with this. Vicki
     

  3. chamoisee

    chamoisee Well-Known Member

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    I would like more details on behavior, signs, that your goat is going blind? The eyes look normal? Does he walk into things? etc, etc.