Our doe, that we were CONVINCED was in labor last weekend, still has not delivered. Poor girl. When she lays down, her vulva is bulging and she groans. She's not straining and I don't see contractions. Plus, if you offer her food - she gets right up and goes after it. So, I don't think she is in distress. The very latest she can be due is next week so she better go soon! Her bag is now big and shiny but still nothing coming our her rear in terms of discharge,other then just a bit of clear stuff - not enough to drip. I called the local goat expert out here that did my dehorning and whethering last year. She said she would come to a pelvic exam tonight at 5:30 if she hasn't delivered. I haven't done it and really need to learn but would rather have the pro do it and show me how. Am I a coward - yes! Plus, I'm a man so I have biggish hands. I'm sure Carmel will appreciate a smaller hand.... Anyway - pray that babies are ok. Will be really traumatic if she hasn't delivered because there's a problem.