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When you buy a gun, you fill out the federal paperwork and they gun shop either calls in or gets on the internet, sends in your info to make sure you are safe to purchase a gun. If you check out, they sell you the gun. It's up to the gun shop to retain the paperwork and I'm not sure how long they have to retain it? It's also quite obvious that many gun shop owners are marginal business people, so their handling of paperwork and records is probably pretty sketchy. A detective PD buddy of mine tells me it's pretty tough to actually trace a gun by serial numbers, since all the records are retained by the gun shops. Having said that, chances are slim that the authorities would be able to go to some central database and determine what guns everyone has.

And don't forget about all the private transactions. It's completely legal in most states to sell, give away, or barter a gun to anyone you want without any paperwork. There are millions of these transactions. There are also millions of guns in private hands that were sold way before any of the paperwork and background check stuff ever became necessary.

Rounding up guns would be a nightmare job and very dangerous for local law enforcement and the majority of these LEOs are pro gun, pro 2nd Amendment guys anyway that won't want anything to do with such a chore. I'm really not too fearful of this ever happening.

What does worry me is that the federal government will start implementing goofy new taxes and regs that make it more costly and difficult to purchase certain firearms, components and ammunition. They may also try to outlaw things like high capacity mags, AR style semi autos, etc.? No matter if you like them or not, we should all join the and support either the NRA or the Gun Owners of America. They do a lot of stuff in Washington to help up retain our gun ownership 2nd amendment rights.
 

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When you buy a gun, you fill out the federal paperwork and they gun shop either calls in or gets on the internet, sends in your info to make sure you are safe to purchase a gun. If you check out, they sell you the gun. It's up to the gun shop to retain the paperwork and I'm not sure how long they have to retain it? It's also quite obvious that many gun shop owners are marginal business people, so their handling of paperwork and records is probably pretty sketchy. A detective PD buddy of mine tells me it's pretty tough to actually trace a gun by serial numbers, since all the records are retained by the gun shops. Having said that, chances are slim that the authorities would be able to go to some central database and determine what guns everyone has.

And don't forget about all the private transactions. It's completely legal in most states to sell, give away, or barter a gun to anyone you want without any paperwork. There are millions of these transactions. There are also millions of guns in private hands that were sold way before any of the paperwork and background check stuff ever became necessary.

Rounding up guns would be a nightmare job and very dangerous for local law enforcement and the majority of these LEOs are pro gun, pro 2nd Amendment guys anyway that won't want anything to do with such a chore. I'm really not too fearful of this ever happening.

What does worry me is that the federal government will start implementing goofy new taxes and regs that make it more costly and difficult to purchase certain firearms, components and ammunition. They may also try to outlaw things like high capacity mags, AR style semi autos, etc.? No matter if you like them or not, we should all join the and support either the NRA or the Gun Owners of America. They do a lot of stuff in Washington to help up retain our gun ownership 2nd amendment rights.

for every reason that you mentioned is exactly why "people" in power want to make changes so that every gun gets registered into a database , they will start with every gun needing a background check this creates a paper trail even if a poor one.

the sad part is TV has the masses convinced such a database both already exists and work. Canada tried for 20 years and wasted billions of dollars registering every gun to every owner and requiring storage conditions. it doesn't work the people who follow laws already don't break the ones they are worried about , like don't murder , don't hold up convenience stores.

however the powers that be are working on keeping in-power and not actually worried about public safety , they use public safety as the excuse but their actions show their goals to be disingenuous.
 

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What does worry me is that the federal government will start implementing goofy new taxes and regs that make it more costly and difficult to purchase certain firearms, components and ammunition. They may also try to outlaw things like high capacity mags, AR style semi autos, etc.?
This. Exactly.
 

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Like cigarettes and alcohol, the government knows they cannot eliminate them so they tax and regulate them. It is and always was about money. Not public health or safety.
Firearms are no different.
 

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The social media platform Parler had 1.5 millions downloads just last Saturday alone.
Amazon owned the servers they used, and together with google and twitter deplatformed them yesterday. They are "poof".
I don't doubt Parler will find a new server. Nevertheless I cancelled my Amazon Prime and all subscriptions as well as deleted all the billing and address info. Anyone who stays with Amazon is supporting China Joe and the CCP.
I also deleted my Firefox and Chrome browsers and moved to Brave for the same reason.I use Duckduckgo as my search engine.
I'm in the process of switching to Protonmail and will kill my gmail once I'm comfortable with Protonmail.
I also don't buy any product with a sports logo on it. Actually, generics work just fine for me anyway.
 

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Gab is another up and coming media platform that has been so overwhelmed by facebook twitter refugees that the site has slowed way down.
It is almost humorous that if you look up the Parler and Gab discriptions on Wikipedia, they are considered alt right, loaded with conspiracy theorists, skin heads, neo nazis and extremist groups. I have found none of those during my experience. I found some homesteading groups. However,skin heads are about like being offended, if I'm not looking for it I usually don't find it.
https://gab.com/
 

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Wisconsin Carry moved to Mewe to replace facebook when FB deleted the account of the CEO of Wisconsin Carry so he could no longer admin it.
 

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I believe that the upcoming administration will have no qualms about the abuse of power. Especially with their media propaganda machine.
At the slightest disagreement you will be labeled as a Right Wing racist anarchists.
And remember, without ammunition A firearm is just a pretty stick.
I did a little inventory the other day and figured out that for the amount of hunting I do, I have a lifetime supply.
Where I burn it up is target shooting.
What I use in .22's for an entire season of squirrel hunting gets burned up in maybe five or ten minutes on the range.
Its not unusual to come home from work and knock off 50 or 60 rounds on my pistol range several times a week.
The price of ammo is very restrictive right now do to increased demand.
So what if they add a buck a bullet tax on top?
Not a far fetched idea for a dictatorship in the making.
A bill was proposed in NY ( from the NYC area) that you could only purchase per month the amount of ammunition your firearm would hold.
As I shoot trap with a sxs it would take 13 months to accumulate enough ammo for one round of trap.
Guess those hundred bird shoots get farther and farther apart.
 
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part of what is so ridiculous is a criminal only needs what the gun holds. whatever it holds they are good to commit acts against others.

the truth that no matter how you abuse your citizens it will never keep criminals from being criminals. just becomes more apparent every day
 

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So what if they add a buck a bullet tax on top?
A buck a bullet would suck, but be manageable. Then I read this "In support of the government’s buyback program, i.e., the carrot, Biden has added a gun tax for anyone who wishes to keep their rifles and high-capacity magazines. If you want to avoid the buyback and keep your guns and high-capacity (greater than ten rounds) magazine, you would have to register both under the National Firearms Act, which triggers a $200 tax for each rifle and magazine—the stick. The stick behind the stick is a penalty of up to ten years in federal prison and a $10,000 fine. Registration involves filling out a thirteen-page registration form and providing fingerprints and a photograph of yourself. " If that is passed, and it may very well be now that the Senate was lost to the Democrats, that the tax could added to ammunition as well.
 

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this is a repeated problem

anything you the government says they can do for your oh trust us we have your back , their promises are garbage. they way over sell and under deliver , a lot of the people who purchased guns then went on to kill numerous people should have been prohibited yet due to complacency in reporting were given a green light on their purchase.

what good is your list if it only abuses the law abiding and does nothing to prevent the criminal.
I wish I could like this 20 times.
 

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A buck a bullet tax would be hard on me. I shot 22 raccoons last year. I could save quite a bit of ammo if the pest control person that keeps dropping them off out here was in jail.
 

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Todd got it.

Lyin' Biden is going to do a run around the Second Amendment by taxing everything guns. Not just a one time tax, but yearly. Sure you can have guns - but like everything lately, only the rich will be able to afford them.
 
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I figure to do the same as I did during the Clinton and Obama years and respond to what the administrations and Congress try to push as it develops.

Throughout the past 40 years all U.S. politicians have been aware that the "largest standing armed force " in the U.S. are the private citizens who legally own firearms for sporting and home defense , that the majority of law enforcement supports legal citizen firearm ownership.

The politicians also know that the citizens who legally own firearms and the LEOs who support their right to do so all vote and have the politicians jobs in their hands at the voting booth.
 

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Yes, voting is an option. But when your choices are between Guns R Dumb and Gun Owners R Dumber and the vast majority are brainwashed to believe guns=bad it's a losing proposition.
 

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It's all "common sense" gun control.
I think I would rather spend a couple of grand on a gun rights group than a couple of grand on some damn license.
 
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A buck a bullet tax would be hard on me. I shot 22 raccoons last year. I could save quite a bit of ammo if the pest control person that keeps dropping them off out here was in jail.
if you have seen it , and especially if you have it on video you should call your warden and inform him/her of this.

if the warden does nothing more than call him and give him a warning. if it stops it is worth it.
 
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