Rheumatoid Arthritis

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  1. Herb.

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    One of my DDs has come down with this, I believe a few years ago there was a hread abjout this on the old countryside forum. There was a remedy using green raisons and vodka I believe, but cannot remember exactly how it was to be taken. Does anyone have this info or know if the old threads are still available somewhere and/or how I can find them. Thanks, Herb.
     
  2. Cyngbaeld

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    I don't know anything about vodka and raisins. What I take for arthritis is tumeric. It is a spice that has been used for thousands of years for arthritis. You can buy it in capsule form. Ginger and cayenne pepper will also help with arthritis pain.
     

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    Is Tumeric pretty fast acting or do you have to take it for a long time before you experience some relief from the pain?
     
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    Tumeric and ginger are antiparasitic. I've cured my asthma with tumeric and garlic. If your daughter went to a health store (try a privately owned one) she could learn a wealth of information, or find someone who is knowledgeable. She should also be getting chondroitin, etc. The easiest and tastiest way is to boil down bones for a soup/broth. The calcium, chondroitin, pottassium, etc, are all in balance when you do this so she won't have to juggle pills, just season to taste
     
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    I usually will take 4 or 5 capsules 4 times a day when I am experiencing a flair. As the pain eases off I cut back to 3 or 4 cap 4 times a day, then 2 caps then 1. If she cuts back and starts having more pain, she can take more. Taking ginger and cayenne at the same time will help also. This won't bring dramatic, instant relief, but it also won't tear her stomach up. Taking the ginger/cayenne/tumeric over a long period of time will not cause her harm, but will help to reduce pain and inflammation.

    It is my understanding that celebrex was synthesized from tumeric, but I do not have any references to back it up. I do know that these herbs have been used for a very long time in India and they really work for me.
     
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    There is a farm in RI that raises red deer. When the deers antlers are in velvet they cut them offand sell them to the chinese. They use it for medicine for arthritis. The farmers brother uses the stuff and says it works wonders.
     
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    Rheumatoid Arthritis can be very deforming of joints over a short period of time without the right medicine. While you might want to play with the herbs and spices, you should also get her some real medicine that will prevent deforming of the bones. I use plaqinil for mine and without it, I'm sure I wouldn't be able to type for one thing. And the pain that I did have in finger joints was unbearable at times. Plaqinil does take about 3 months to get started working, but in the mean time prednisone does wonders right away for pain, and its a cheap drug.
     
  8. Cyngbaeld

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    Prednisone may help the pain in the short run, but it has major, sometimes devestating, side effects. It also does nothing to slow down joint destruction and may actually speed it due to the fact that the sufferer continues to over use the joint because of the decrease in pain.

    Plaquenil also has side effects that I personally find unbearable, tho it may work for some people. In fact, all of the prescription meds I have tried for RA have had side effects. I also have to wonder, if they (Rx meds) are so great, why do the big pharm. co.s have to keep coming out with new ones? And each one is supposed to be so much better than the last. The newer ones are definitely more expensive than the old, but I have not found them to be more effective.

    boxwoods, I'm glad you found something that works for you. Please forgive my ranting about the drug companies. I just have been way too frustrated with prescription meds for way too long before I switched exclusively to herbs.
     
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    Thanks for all the reponses. I have read a little about the tumeric/curcumin taken with bromelain and a few others like fish oil.
    She does get regular treatments at the hospital, but experiences flair ups from time to time, they are very painful. The doctor she had also left, moved to Florida, (bet she wishes she was back here now) the new one doesn't seem to know as much as the previous one. I would like to get her off of the regular treatments, while they seem to control the disease, and have done wonders for her, (she was in a wheel chair three years ago when we got here), they are not good for a person for long term and neither are the pain pills she has to take, the treatments are also very expensive and tie you down to liveing close to a hospital that can preform the procedure.
    I was hoping someone would recall the old post from countryside, I remember it was something like take nine white raisons, soak them in vodka over night, pad them draw and eat them it was supposed to be really good for rheumatoid. Seems I recall reading it in other places also but after three years she is finally ready to try something and I can't find it. I was hoping to talk to someone that uses this method and make sure I remember it correctly. Well thanks again maybe I will remember the other places I read about it or someone will see this that knows about it.
     
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    Hi, Herb,
    I suffer from RA just as my mother did. RA is nothing to mess with! Mom ended up twisted and in pain for her later years. It was a blessing for her when she went to the Lord.
    If your daughter is as severely afflicted as you say, please, don't take her off her meds. Talk with her doctor about supplementing them with herbs and the like. Since he doesn't seem to know as much as her last doc, find another one! I take glucosimine/chondroitin with my meds, type constantly to keep my hands strong, and I'm still not deformed after the doctors told me ten years ago that I only had about 5 years left of good use of my hands. My sister also takes the glucosimine/chondroitin. She had been on a cane and was able to come off it with the help of the gluc./chon..
    Moderate exercise actually will keep the body strong enough to help resist the deformations along with the treatments. Yes, it hurts, but it hurts worse if not treated. RA is an inflamation. One of the common treatments for inflamation of anything is cold compresses. When my hands are hurting, I soak them in icy cold water. OW! But, when I dry off and return to warm temps., I feel a lot better and less stiff because the swelling has been reduced. I got the idea after I read that the Russians were experimenting with it.
    The vodka in the recipe numbs the pain and can be rubbed into the joint that is hurting for a more direct application. It's also good for bruising. I wish I had known all of this when Mom was alive. I do believe she would not have been in so much pain nor so deformed if this knowledge and treatments had been available then.
    Good luck to her and you, TXlightningbug :yeeha:
     
  11. ginnie5

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    Please do not mix herbs with prescription meds! Herbs are not something to play with. they are serious medicine themselves. Taking the two together could cause serious side effects. I have high bp and have kept it under control for 5 years now with diet and herbs. I refuse to go to an md for this. I've seen the ineptitude they have in controlling it in my mother. try to find a naturopath to help your dd or maybe even a chiropracter. I have a dear friend with RA and she has had several surgeries on her hands for it. She jumps from one medicine to the other.
     
  12. Kathy in MD

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    I personnally do not use this recipe. Some say it works, some say it does not, but here is the recipe anyway:

    1 cup of white raisins covered in gin. Soak for 7 days. Eat 9 raisins a day.

    I hope your daughter gets some relief I hear rheumatoid arthritis is very painful.
     
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    my younger sister was recently diagnosed with RA at age 29. She is starting meds while waiting to see a specialist. In the interum i did some research on herbal/alternative therapies and Feverfew kept coming up as an analgesic anti-inflammitory. The worker at the health food store also suggested Noni juice, as it has some of the same qualities.
    Have any of y'all tried either of these?

    mimsmommy
     
  14. Irish Pixie

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    I have Systemic Lupus, which is an autoimmune disease much like RA. I take Plaquenil, Bextra (an antiinflamatory), and a moderate painkiller (used very infrequently). I added a B Complex vitamin (for energy), and vitamin C with rose hips (good for the immune system) about a month ago or so and I have seen in an improvement in daily fatigue, and my joints are better too.

    The vitamins don't usually interact negatively with prescription meds but it's always a good idea to run it by your doctor.

    Stacy in NY
     
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    WOW, lots of good stuff. Don't get me wrong, my daughter is 28 and I would not/could not force her do to anything she didn't want to. She was asking for help. We saw the Doc today, he was all for the fish oil but is going to check on the tumeric and bromelain, he said the gin was probably not a good idea because of the medication she is on now. I also found out she has tried the noni juice and it did help, so I think the plan is now to add the fish oil and noni juice on a regular basis and see how it goes in a few weeks. Thanks for all the help.
     
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    Herb, I sure hope she gets better soon. I've struggled with arthritis for many years. Been thru all the tests, did all the prescriptions, prednisone injections, the works.... Not fun!
     
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    Please have your daughter watch carefully for allergic reactions whether she's taking herbs or prescription medications...I am allergic to so much of it all....so you don't want to compound the problem. If she's taking a new medication have somebody with her and have Benedryl available AND have a way to get her to medical care quickly if she does have a reaction.

    I would use only herbal remedies but I am so allergic I can't. I was on Predinisone for 11 years until I weaned myself off of it because I was so scared of the side effects....I weaned myself off of it in 1997....I was taking it for severe allergies....Now I have what is likely severe arthritus starting in both ankles...I can't take any pain medication and can't take any antiflamatory drugs so I'm adjusting best I can.
     
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    I read an article last year about chronic inflammation in a person's system causing a lot of auto immune diseases. The article recommended taking DHA (from fish oil), alpha lipoic acid, and stinging nettle. Each natural product worked on a different form of inflammation and was supposed to improve health. I have fibromyalgia and started taking all three and have seen major improvement in my pain levels. Also my cholesterol dropped over 100 points, and my blood sugar improved. I am taking less thyroid medication now also. I also take Malic Acid, a form of magnesium, and it really helps my energy levels. I feel like I have my life back due to the DHA, ALA, stinging nettle, and Malic Acid. These can all be found at a natural health store.

    The link to the article is:
    http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/M...nic+inflammation&hiword=chronic+inflammation+
     
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    Kathy, could this also work for osteo and/or fibromyalgia? And.. BTW... suppose I could slip in a little lime juice? :eek: