Rattlesnake.

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  1. manfred

    manfred Well-Known Member

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    A few minutes ago I was coming down my drive to the house and right across the road laid a 4 ft rattlesnake. It just would not move out of the road. Now , I like snakes but I was a little undecided wether to kill it or not. I drove arround.Was I wrong?
    Sure glad the wife wasn't with me!
    By the way, a really pretty animal!
     
  2. woodspirit

    woodspirit Well-Known Member

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    They are rare and endangered in some places. Protected in many. They aren't aggressive at all. They have a purpose in the environment too. Like you said yourself, they are really pretty. With all the heat and dry weather this year, we are going to see alot more rodents, so having snakes helps keep them in check. Pretty soon there will be some tailless hominid making alot of noise about how bad and evil they are....not unlike a group of chimps in the zoo, when they fear something. Use your head and eliminate rodents and hiding places around your home.
     

  3. southerngurl

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    I say kill them. Non poisonous snakes kill mice too. However, in the same situation, I did the same thing, avoided killing a rattlesnake on our road. I'm just too soft.

    Funny I should see this. I was just out jogging and nearly stepped on a copperhead. I jumped and made a little scream, scared the snake too. Glad I didn't step on it. I bought sat on one couple months ago in the field. Need to keep a better eye out in the future I guess!
     
  4. Shadow

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    I am 65 years old have been bitten twice over the years and no I don't leave poison snakes alive. consider them a danger to me and mine and so they are gone on site. I have a couple of six foot plus king snakes in my shop and several more around. Once you have been bitten then I will consider you really knowing if you should let them live or not.
     
  5. MELOC

    MELOC Master Of My Domain

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    within a hundred yards or so of the house i would kill it. if i see one in the forest, i leave it alone. the last copperhead i saw was on the appalachian trail a year or two ago. it was a young one and was gray in color. it was all coiled up and acting peaceful so i just admired it's sinister beauty and then walked away.
     
  6. Country Lady

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    I don't know where you live, but living in the deep south and knowing their danger, we kill any and all snakes. We don't take time to ask them if they're poisonous or not.
     
  7. FourDeuce

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    I grew up in Louisiana, where there were plenty of opportunities to kill snakes when I was growing up, and I took advantage of lots of them. :rolleyes:
    Now I don't kill any of them when I see them. Not even the poisonous ones. Of course, my guineas aren't as forgiving, and they kill some small snakes when they find them. When they find larger ones, they usually escort them out of the yard(including the poisonous ones).
    We'll soon be coming up to the shedding season, if they're not already there, so the snakes will be getting grumpy.
     
  8. halfpint

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    Timely topic. We made sure the chickens had water around 7PM and had been out in the yard for 2 hours, my DH went to lock up the coop at 8 and found one of the chickens was dead with a snake wrapped around it which had also bitten the chicken on the head. My DH mutilated the head of the snake killing it, but my 19yo son thinks it is a mocassion, and we are about 1/2 mile from the nearest creek. It didn't have any rattlers and was 6 1/2 feet long so wasn't a rattlesnake, but had the diamondback pattern. Guess they're coming out from the lack of water here.

    Now my DH doesn't want our two younger ones playing the woods for a while.

    Dawn
     
  9. insanity

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    Well as few of them as there are left in many areas.I wouldn't kill them.But i would relocate them farther away from the house.(or in the local wild life preserve.)

    But i wouldn't worry to much about letting him go.I highly doubt you'll ever see him again.
     
  10. Fla Gal

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    I don't think you were wrong at all. I don't kill snakes. When I lived in city or urban settings I'd relocate snakes, even harmless non-poisonous ones that freaked out neighbors whom would kill it just because it was a snake. One of my most awesome finds was a 39" Coral snake. At the time the US record was something like 44". I relocated him.

    Rattlesnakes are so laid back. They don't want to strke because it wastes their venom which they need for getting food. Growing up in central Florida with lots of woods around to explore I learned, at the age of 9, when you come up on a rattler, at a non-threatening distance, you can follow them around and watch them slither off into to woods without a hint of them showing signs of striking. It's when you get too up close and personal they will defend themselves.

    My opinion is, no, you weren't wrong at all. Unless you have a rodent problem on your property, you probably won't see it again for a long time. And yes they are pretty animals.
     
  11. big rockpile

    big rockpile If I need a Shelter

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    Try to run over them.When yo think your tire is close,slam on your Brakes,it tears them up pretty good.Or jump out shoot them with your Pistol,skin and gut them,then fry.

    big rockpile
     
  12. Misty

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    I prefer killing them before they kill me. We had two babies in the last week. They are DEAD and the buttons are on my son's dresser. I can't afford to lose livestock to rattlers.
     
  13. Country Lady

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    Snakes can be deadly. I prefer them dead rather than my outside dogs dead or my family.
     
  14. Country

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    I live and let live. That includes snakes of all types unless they are a direct danger to me and mine. Everything has it's place in nature and everything has a place to fill. If we kill all the snakes then we have to find a way to accomplish the work they did while they were still among the living. If we take time to educate ourselves about snakes, that alone will go along way in keeping us safe in our enviroment.
     
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    I agree with Meloc. Around the place I kill poisonous snakes and leave the non-poisonous alone. Out in the woods or on the road I don't bother any of them.
     
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    Having seen first hand the damage a rattlesnake can do to livestock & dogs on multiple occasions, I kill them when I find them if they're on my property. I do NOT relocate them -- there have been studies done proving they've got "homing pigeon" like instincts and will return to their home territory even from miles away.

    If I run across one when out hiking, I leave it alone. I'm not afraid of them, but I've gotten pretty pragmatic about dealing with them.

    Couple of things people don't often realize about rattlers:

    1. The bite isn't usually deadly, but it's very painful and tends to cause quite a bit of tissue damage.

    2. MOST SPECIES ARE NOT ENDANGERED. There are a few local exceptions.

    3. Gopher snakes do a darn good rattlesnake impersonation. Look for rattles before killing a snake! Gopher snakes are harmless, but they'll hiss in a way that sounds like a rattle and shake their tail.

    4. Snakes are most active when temps are between about 80 and 100 degrees. You may find them at other times, but that's when I'm hyper alert for them. I kill a few every year around my house.
     
  17. Reptyle

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    I just love to hear people revel in their prejudices...


    The link below discusses and has a photo of a kingsnake killing a copperhead, for those of you who might be interested, enjoy.

    http://www.orangeleader.com/sports/local_story_201190220.html?keyword=topstory
     
  18. Gideon

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    From above--"Pretty soon there will be some tailless hominid making alot of noise about how bad and evil they are....not unlike a group of chimps in the zoo, when they fear something"----Pretty sweeping statement, don't you think !! I kill any poisonous snake crossing my path. Have never been bitten by a poisonous one but have by a couple of black snakes. A friends daughter was bitten and had lots of trouble with the poison. Another had to be taken to the hospital by ambulance. Non poisonous snakes eat just as many rodents as poisonous ones and do not injure/kill you. Let them live if you wish but don't be crying when they kill your dog or your child or your neighbors. God put a distance between snakes and humans for a reason. They will bruise you heel if given the chance. wc
     
  19. Micahn

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    If you like things like mice and rats around you place them kill them If you do not like mice and rats then let them live as they eat a lot of them. Very rare will one hurt a farm animal as the animals know to stay away from them.
    I hate to be the one to tell the people above that they had been bite by them in the past, The only humans that get bite by them are the ones that do not pay attention where they walk. Now kids and such they have a good excuses but adults really do not. I have lived in areas as well as hunted, Fished and every thing else around them most of my life and never one time have I come close to being bite by one. Sure I have seen many of them and even had to jump back a couple of times to keep away from them. The only one that I did kill was when I was young (about 16 or 17) and did not know any better. That one was about a 6 1/2 eastern diamond back here in South Florida.

    Anyway I just hate to see any animal killed for no other reason that someone does not like them. Now if your going to eat them as well as use the other parts like skin and rattle then that would be different as it is not being wasted.
     
  20. Cornhusker

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    I kill them.
    I don't like the thought of them being around the place, I don't like the thought of stepping on one, I don't even want to see one.
    Call me names if you want, but I'm phobic about snakes. always have been, and likely always will be. I can't even watch them on tv without getting the heebie jeebies.
    The last snake Gleaner killed took one shot, the last one I killed got 15 rounds. I made sure he was dead and then some.
    When I was in high school, a guy thought it was funny to chase me around with a dead snake. I caught him later without his snake, now he laughs with less teeth.
    I just hate snakes, can you tell?
    Just talking about it makes me want to go put my shoes on.
    I'd sooner face a grizzly with a bb gun than a snake.
    (I doubt a grizzly could hit much with a bb gun anyway).