I posted a question yesterday but I think my post got dropped so I'll try again. I have had horses all my life but am new to goat-keeping. A friend of mine gave me 2 young Nubians, one wether and his half-sister. I have had them for 3 weeks now and they are 6 months and 4 months respectively. The wether got off to a rough start in life as he was born curved to the right and was unable to hold his body straight. He also stuck his right hind leg out and walked with it like a peg leg. After some "goat physical therapy" (my friend and I are both PTs), he is moving much better and can even turn completely to the left to scratch his left ear with his left hind foot. His still has a habit of circling to the right when he gets excited (like at feeding time). He also appears to have a visual field deficit (I think he can see out of the left sides of his eyes but not the right). In any case he at least has a distance vision problem as you can tell when he loses you or his sister (baas and circles) and then when he can see you again. He seems very happy and, because he was handled so much, is just a love, very social and tame. His sister did not get handled at my friends farm nearly as much and she is on the skittish side. I can hand feed her and pet her but the minute she thinks I'm going to catch or restrain her in any way, she runs off. Catching her to bring her home was interesting to say the least. I'm also concerned about being able to provide her with adequate care as she doesn't let me pick up her feet. I haven't even tried worming her yet as I'm not sure how I'd get it in her if I can't restrain her in some way. All of this leads to the following questions. To further explain, this is my current set-up. The goats are in a 20' round pen made with the Billy Goat Gruff panels which we placed inside the paddock with the horses (about 3 acres). The horses pay no attention to them whatsoever. The horses paddock is fenced with post and rail (3 rails). Would it make any sense to fence the post and rail with wire and keep the goats and horses together? We originally got the goat fencing thinking we could move it around the farm. Right! That fencing is so heavy it takes about 5 people to move it (unless you broke it all apart which is problematic given the goat-catching problem). Should I take a chance and just try teaching them to herd (which might be hard given my wethers visual problems). I think I can lead him but should I assume she'll follow? I bought a couple of books on goat-keeping and am frustrated because they are so general or the advice I've read doesn't work (one book advised leading a goat by the ear - not a good idea as my doe leaped into the air screaming like she'd been skinned alive). My friend tried de-budding the wether with no success and never even tried the doe. Should I even bother now at their ages? They are not show quality, just pets. Thanks for any and all responses. I love this site!