Hi all, After a couple years of "goat study", I'm finally taking the plunge this year. I will be getting (cross your fingers, they're still "in vitro"!) a pair of Saanen doelings. I'd also decided on Kinders (higher milkfat, ideal temperment and size, good feed conversion ratio, etc.) to balance out the Saanen's low milkfat and "skinny" carcass. I've been able to find tons of information about Saanens from both books and breeders. But dealing with a somewhat recently developed breed, I'm having a harder time getting an idea of what the Kinder norms are. So, here goes! 1) How long is an average lactation period for a Kinder? How many pounds over this period? What % fat and protien? 2) At what age do you butcher culls? What do they weigh at that time? I'm asking this question specifically from the feed conversion point of view, ie - at what age does the feed conversion rate start to taper off? 3) What are the average litter sizes you've seen? How do they fluctuate with age? 4) Aside from registration requirements, what are the advantages/disadvantages in starting with a generation 4-5 rather than earlier generations? 5) I know that Kinders have their own have their own registry, but are they registerable with, say, the ADGA as an experimental? The actual "paper" end of this is the last thing I've started looking into, so I'm still a bit clueless on this aspect. From what I could find with the Kinder registry (the name is escaping me right now!) I'd have to be a member to be able to research bloodlines, etc. Is this the case, or can I find this information compiled somewhere before becoming a member? These are very general questions, of course, and I know everyone is going to have different answers, but that's exactly what I'm hoping for...to get something of a "cross section" from folks with real hands-on experience. Oh yeah...anyone know of a good Kinder breeder in the upper Midwest? Thanks!