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I've been having problems with a lower molar for over a year now. The dentist I went to about my toothache, last April, cleaned my teeth and took X-rays but nothing else. I finally was able to get the tooth looked at about 4 months later. The prognosis was the existing filling had come loose.

Two weeks later they replaced the filling with a temporary and told me to come back in 6 months. 6 months came and went. Then 9 months. Each time I went in they put me with a hygienist who said I had to make another appointment to see the dentist. Finally I was able to get the dentist, last Monday, to replace the temporary with a proper filling.

As soon as the freezing wore off I was in a massive amount of pain. I ignored it that afternoon assuming it was normal swelling. Tuesday rolled around and the pain was sitting at a 9 on the 1-10 scale for pain. We called the dentist back and told them I wanted to tooth pulled. They gave me an appointment for Saturday. The whole week I couldn't eat or sleep.

Saturday morning I woke with very little pain, relative to earlier in the week, but I already had the appointment so I went in. The dentist put me in the chair and told me "Sorry I don't pull teeth. You'll have to come back next week. I can give you a root canal." I argued, of course, but she insisted that was all she could or would do. Finally, after 1/2 hour or so she said "The tooth will probably break off and you'll be in worse pain than you are now. Let me do the root canal." I agreed just because I was getting tired of arguing and my tooth was really starting to hurt again.

She gave me several shots in the jaw, around the tooth, and into the tooth itself (so she said) and started drilling. It hurt and I told her so. She said "I'm only trying to help you. There is going to be some discomfort", and started drilling again. Hurt worse, much worse. I stopped her. She got frustrated so she gave me another shot. Started drilling, still hurt. After the 4th time of feeling like she was stabbing into the centre of my tooth with a large, freezing cold needle I told her to stop. She put a temporary filling in and told me to come back next week. Nothing for pain, swelling, or antibiotics.

Saturday afternoon and all day Sunday I was miserable. Monday was a holiday so this morning hubby called a different dentist who said he would see me today. Went in and they took a look. Told me that they could either refer me to a dental surgeon to have it pulled or I could let them do a root canal. I talked it over with hubby and we finally decided that something had to be done today, so we decided on the root canal.

I was in for a little over an hour. There was very little pain except right near the end of the procedure and even that was bearable. He told me to expect some pain but not as much as I had been in and told me to take Motrin or Advil if it started bothering me. If it was to bad he would give me a prescription.

That was over an hour ago and I'm feeling very little pain (.5 on the 1-10 scale if that much). The jaw bone aches a little but nothing like what I've been going through for the last week. My next appointment is Aug 22. He says I have to come back at least twice more if not three times more to complete the root canal.

I called the first dentist office and cancelled all upcoming appointments. The receptionist asked why so I told her the whole story. Her response was "All I can do is apologize and leave a note on the office managers desk."

Now my questions:
What about getting the filling done on Monday suddenly required me to get a root canal? Aren't root canals done because of infection?

Was the amount of pain involved with the appointment on Saturday normal or did that dentist mess up something? It seems weird when today there was so little pain.

Why do I have to go back two more times to get this root canal completed? Why can't it all be done at once?

Am I the only one who thinks this whole string of events with the first dentist office was unprofessional?
 

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I'm sure glad to see that you went to another dentist. If you hadn't, I was going to suggest you do. I think the first dentist was very unprofessional. I had a root canal and yes there is discomfort but more in line with what you experienced with the second dentist. It shouldn't have been so painful as you experienced with the first dentist. It seems as though she was getting frustrated with you and just wanted to plow on anyway. I'm glad it went well for you after all.

It does take two to three visits. I forget exactly why right now, someone on here will know I'm sure. But I remember my dentist telling me the same thing and I think it took three visits for me.

Glad you are all right now and I'd stay away from the first dentist.
 

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I am so sorry for the problems that you have had. I was also going to suggest changing dentists. I work for a DDS, but in the front office, so take anything I have to say with a grain of salt.

First, root canals can be the treatment of choice just because of pain, not necessarily because of infection. Infection is often present though. X-rays usually show the cause of your pain, but not always.

Secondly it can be very difficult to achieve anesthesia when you are already in pain. It has something to do with the nerve being "hot", unable to anesthetize. In that situation, the dds that I work for would stop the procedure, prescribe antibiotics and pain relief, then reschedule the pt after things quiet down.

Most endodontists in my part of the US finish a root canal in one visit now. The important thing to consider is that even after the root canal is finished, your dental visits are far from over. For a molar, you will need an appt for a post and core OR a core buildup to make your tooth strong enough to be useful. (teeth are usually brittle after a root canals). Then comes another quite expensive appt for a crown. Then of course another appt to have the crown placed after it comes back from the lab.

I'm glad that you have found a dentist that is trying to preserve your tooth, but am quite curious about the runaround and time lapse that you received from your first dentist. I am trying not be political here, but I notice that you are in Canada. Could this have anything to do with managed medicine? Is the lengthy amount of time to get a filling a routine occurence is it particular to just that dentist?

I'm glad that you are nearly pain free. Please do not neglect to follow up with the remaining appts. Your tooth is open to the bottom of the root under that temp filling. It is important to follow up.
 

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I have had one root canal, that was done by an endodontist. I am a dental-phobe myself, so I can completely sympathize with all you've endured. The endodontist that I went to had me fill out a "survey" of sorts, to gauge my feelings about what he planned to do with my tooth. What a brilliant idea that was. He saw from my answers that I was anxious about sitting in a dental chair, and afraid that he wouldn't be able to get the tooth numb enough that I wouldn't feel him drilling and poking around. He wasn't offended, instead he used the info to prescribe some pre-procedure drugs so that I came into his office nice and sedated. The whole procedure was handled in one session. I fell asleep on and off during the procedure, because it does take a long time. The only follow up visits were to my regular dentist to prepare for the crown I needed, and to put the permanent crown on after it came back from the lab.
 

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Thanks for the info Marilyn. I didn't realize root canals were so popular in this day and age. I wish the dentist on Saturday had told me about hot nerves up front, then I would have told her to leave it for another day. Of course then I would still be using that office so maybe it was just meant to be.

What is a post and core? Do they essentially fill the hollow up with something that is similar to the density of the tooth? Packing the tooth with ceramic or something? I think I'm going to have to hit google for more info.

Marilyn said:
I'm glad that you have found a dentist that is trying to preserve your tooth, but am quite curious about the runaround and time lapse that you received from your first dentist. I am trying not be political here, but I notice that you are in Canada. Could this have anything to do with managed medicine? Is the lengthy amount of time to get a filling a routine occurence is it particular to just that dentist?
It is important to follow up.
Dentistry isn't covered under the Provincial medical care system. May be in other provinces but not here. Dentistry here is either through an insurance company through work or out of pocket. Luckily I have insurance through work so up to now everything has been covered. Because I've moved to a new dentist there is going to be additional costs for X-rays that will be out of pocket but it isn't that expensive.

I think maybe the run around was due to the size of the practice and the fact that I never saw the same person twice in the year and a bit I've been dealing with them. Even the receptionists and hygienists were all different each time. Of course, I should have been proactive about getting the filling done long before now, rather than letting them schedule and reschedule me. I only got proactive after the pain had become unbearable.

I've spoken wth several people at work, who have been in this town longer than we have, and the impression they leave is that the first office has a high turn over rate and they use new graduates more than experienced people in their office. The receptionist at the new dentist said the same thing but was a bit more political about it. That may also have had something to do with the run around.

I've always been pretty good about going to the dentist for regular checkups and I have no intention in that changing. I am going to be especially careful about letting the tooth go unfinished as I really don't want an infection in my jaw or gums.
 

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The endodontist that I went to had me fill out a "survey" of sorts, to gauge my feelings about what he planned to do with my tooth.
The dentist today gave me a little survey too. On the question about concerns I wrote "pain". On the question about what they could do to allieviate my concerns I said "Kill me please". I don't think they found it as amusing as I did.
 

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I dunno what kinda dentist you have around there but if i decide to have one of my teeth pulled, my normal dentist tried to convinvce me for all of 3 min to try to do it his way. if I say NO.... I want it pulled....

the give me an appointment with an oral surgeon on staff and I come back to get it done.

the old dentist I had had no qualms about doing anyting I asked, he would say "root canal job or yank it you pick"
if it was eady he did it right then, a few times he sent me to a specialist who had to cut and dig around for a broken root.

my brothers dentist pulled the same crap on him they are pulling on you, and for YEARS told him no infection, you have TMJ.

when he couldnt stand it anymore he went ot my old dentist and said "pull them" and he also said he saw "someting" on the xray but it was not infection as far as he could tell.
well, he pulled 4 back teeth in one afternoon and they all had small abecess in the jaw, and the pain went away in a week with some antibiotics.

the old dentist said "that happens, often they cant see infections" and yanked them on request.
he said "TMJ??? they are crazy..."

if you have deep severe pain that comes and goes.... yank em.

I had 3 root canals on my front teeth after they got broken off in an accident, they never gave me any problem.
my sister has had a few RC jobs and cant stand the intermittent pain that never goes away.
her new dentist has been repairing/rebuilding each tooth and is appauled at the rotten RC job that was done on her.

seems like each one he redoes, they dont bother her anymore.

personally myself... if they cant put a crown on it, save me the time and pain and just yank it already.
 

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All my teachers in the natural health world have urged us to NEVER get root canals, they are just harbors of viruses, bacteria ect. and cause way more grief than a simple pulled tooth.
 

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Root canal therapy can be a terrific way to save a tooth. During a root canal all of bacteria in the tooth is removed, the empty space where the nerve used to be is filled with a resin sealer along with a material made out of tree gum. A metal post is then placed 7-10 mm into that same space, then a filling is attached to the post (this is the core). A crown is then placed over the entire getup.

No bacteria should be present after a root canal is completed.

A dentist should always give a patient all of the options and pros and cons of each procedure. Too many dentists only give one option although there may be many.

Remember to only floss the teeth you want to keep!
 
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