Price for butchered rabbit

Discussion in 'Rabbits' started by Christiaan, Nov 9, 2005.

  1. Christiaan

    Christiaan Dutch Highlands Farm

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    I've been selling my rabbits directly to customers. They are cutup, bagged and frozen and I get $14 each. No complaints about the price from customers. Am I charging too little?
     
  2. Michael Leferink

    Michael Leferink Well-Known Member

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    We do well to get $6.00 per dressed rabbit here. You are very lucky!

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  3. dmckean44

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    A 7 lb organic chicken can cost $14 in the grocery store so it sounds about right to me.
     
  4. dlwelch

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    Location! Location! Location!

    Our price is $3.00 per pound. The market won't bear any more in
    this area. :bash:

    I would be happy to be selling 50 or so of those $14.00 fryers
    per month.

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  5. doninwis

    doninwis Active Member

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    That's a bit steep for fryers in our area, but if you are getting it, it must be fine with the people you are selling to.

    Rabbit is about $4.00 - $4.50 per pound when/where you can find it. If you charge any less, you probably are not comming out on top. If you have to charge less, I'd concider charging a processing fee of $2.00 per head to compensate for you time/labor/materials/electricity in the processing of the procuct. That could make the package worth about $12.00 - $14.00.

    That's what we do in this area.

    Don
     
  6. Reauxman

    Reauxman Well-Known Member

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    Charging ANYTHING for processing is ILLEGAL unless you have permits to do so. All you need is one person to turn you in for that $14 rabbit and you will be paying a lot more than $2.
     
  7. doninwis

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    I agree with Christiaan, that's more like we do it.

    Another way to get around that is to sell it live and suggest an area of compensation for you to help them get it to the freezer.

    I guess it all boils down to the same thing tho doesn't it. I'd suggest that if your area wants you to have a processors licience, you either get it or find someone who has it. It would probably depend on how many you have to process in a year.

    Don
     
  8. dlwelch

    dlwelch Well-Known Member

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    In Texas, it doesn't matter whether we charge or give the rabbit away.
    We cannot legally put a product into the retail food chain unless it is processed in an approved/licensed facility (doesn't have to be USDA).
    It has nothing to do with the processing fee.

    The only exception is for me to demonstrate to the buyer "how to process
    the rabbit" with him in attendance. I was assured by the state agency
    charged with enforcement that they wouldn't come after me under those
    conditions! Due to the fact that I don't have *product liability* on processed rabbit, I limit my sales to family and neighbors.

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  9. Ranchermom

    Ranchermom Sam at the Pecan Ranch

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    Each state law is different

    For those of you that want to do small scale Rabbit & poultry processing in the state of Texas less then 10,000 in a calendar year here is more info on it Texas Department of State and Health Service web site click here and it includes

    Three different levels for Texas for butchering. One of them is Commerical the other Custom and the other is for small livestalk that most of us do. I dont think is that hard to get for individual if you wanted to become custom that is a whole different level. This is quote from that site:

    "Individuals that produce low volume poultry or rabbits and wish to slaughter and process them for sale are required to obtain either a Grant of Poultry/Rabbit Exemption or a Grant of Inspection.


    Application for grant of poultry/rabbit exemption

    1. Sanitation Standard Operating Procedures (SSOP)

    Regulations require that meat and poultry establishments develop, implement, and maintain written standard operating procedures for sanitation (Sanitation SOPs). SSOPs must describe all procedures an establishment will conduct daily, before and during operations, to prevent direct contamination or adulteration of product(s). SSOPs must describe which procedures will be conducted before the start of operations and those that will be conducted during operations. SSOPs should include an inspection checklist and a corrective action record to document daily the procedures conducted and to document any corrective actions taken in response to observed deficiencies.

    2. Labeling and Marketing

    Meat and poultry products produced under a grant of poultry/rabbit exemption and intended to be sold through locations other than the farm where the livestock is produced, must be clearly marked with the producer's name and address and the term "Exempted P.L. 90-492".


    Now if you want to look more into the Texas Code check on it check out the Texas Administrative Code Section 21 Click here

    (21) Grant of poultry/rabbit exemption--An authorization from the department for a person to engage in a very low volume business of slaughtering and processing poultry or rabbits of his/her own raising on his/her own property and personally distributing the carcasses and/or parts, to retail consumers, restaurants, or other retail establishments, provided that the following conditions are met:

    (A) the person slaughters less than 10,000 poultry, rabbits, or a combination thereof, in a calendar year;

    (B) the person does not buy and sell other poultry or rabbit products (except live chicks, baby rabbits, and/or breeding stock);

    (C) only sound, healthy poultry or rabbits are slaughtered and all processes and handling are conducted under sanitary standards and procedures resulting in poultry and rabbit products that are not adulterated;

    (D) the product bears the processor's name and address and the statement "Exempted P.L. 90-492"; (unless immediately sold to the household consumer); and

    (E) the poultry is not a ratite.

    Hope this helps the Texas people :)
    As for the sale part I think it goes around here $3.50 per pound. A typical dressed rabbit will weigh 2 lbs at this stage. This gives an average price of $7.00 per fryer.

    Sam
     
  10. dlwelch

    dlwelch Well-Known Member

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    It's not hard to get as long as you want to spend the $$$$$$
    to meet the building requirements to pass inspection.

    Although I haven't figured costs recently, someone in South Texas
    finished a small poultry facility last year and her expense was $10,000 (give or take a few $$).
     
  11. Ranchermom

    Ranchermom Sam at the Pecan Ranch

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    Yah your right Linda to get a small process center going it could run in the mula... especially if you get into the Custom or the Commercial but if you stick with the individual less then 10,000 a year exemption it shouldnt run that much if just for rabbits you need what??? a good table, water to keep things clean, dosent say it has to be in a building even, not the "individual exemption" unless I am missing it? I would want a roof over my head at least ;) Screened in would be great to keep flys away.

    I dont see anything anywhere in the Health rules that says for the individual you have to have this and that equipment, just the SSOPs written up someplace and of course do the application. Now if you do Poultry then your looking into more money for the plucker, scalder.


    Sam
     
  12. dlwelch

    dlwelch Well-Known Member

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    The facility I referred to was under the same type of exemption that
    you referenced. Yes, it has to be in a building. It can't be co-mingled
    with your private kitchen work area in any manner. What spoilsports
    they are! :p

    And, if things start going good and you get close to the 10,000
    number mark, the State will advise that you need to contact them
    so an Inspector can be on hand during each day of processing.
    There is a small poultry operation in North Texas who had gotten
    into this area.
    Dr. Sidwa (State Health Dept.) had suggested to me that a
    "mobile processing" facility co-owned and used by several producers
    might could work. It might would work okay for one producer but
    it would seem to be a more expensive route.

    I wasn't interested in pursuing this much further as I have an
    excellent market for live rabbits.

    There used to be a pamphlet available from the state detailing
    some of this further.

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  13. Ranchermom

    Ranchermom Sam at the Pecan Ranch

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    Oh ok the custom or commercial Yah I can believe it would cost that much especially if you want to do more then 10,000 a year and do more different things with it.

    We have slowly through the years been collecting, tables and all the equipment its taken us about 4yrs to do that. Even that has cost us a pretty penny getting it at auctions and fleamarkets. Even making your own scalder and plucker will cost a bit, still less then buying it.

    Oh I can't believe that either! I want to make a milk room I figured I would just use the harvest kitchen we plan to build but hubby said nope it has to be separate if we want it certified for raw milk! geeeez now thats another nightmare the milk certified I wont go into it since this is a rabbit topic

    to rich for my blood hehe

    10,000 a year I can't even dream of that many I would have nightmares hahaha my family would leave me if we did that many. :walk:
    I think Virginia is 20,000 we read a lot of Joel S books. I think it said that.

    Sam
     
  14. dlwelch

    dlwelch Well-Known Member

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    If you apply to process and market 2 or 2,000 rabbits, you will need
    to have a facility approved by the state. You will not be allowed
    to butcher and process in the "open" and place rabbits into the
    retail market. You need concrete floors w/drains, washable
    interiors, appropiate tables/work areas, etc.

    In reality, the main difference is whether an inspector is on site or not
    during butchering. For less than 10,000, he is not (normally).

    It's actually more involved than just writing something up. The
    inspector in this area volunteered to work with us to develop
    the SSOP. LOL Guess he needed to get away from the office!


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  15. Ranchermom

    Ranchermom Sam at the Pecan Ranch

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    Linda I dont see this in the Texas Department of State and Health Service or the Texas Administrative Code websites I am going to private email you maybe we can figure out together check your email please.

    Oh why or why do they make this complicated for lil ol' country folks like us hahaha

    Sam
     
  16. momshobbies

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    I sell my meat rabbits for $7.50. The folks I sell to seem to be happy to pay that . located in mid-Missouri
     
  17. Nick

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    ok so i got a question, what if you do charge for the processing?

    say you sell you rabbit on the hoof so to speak for $14 dollars or you can get a cut and froze for the same?
     
  18. doninwis

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    I thought Christiann's origional question was about selling rabbit to customers who might come to the farm for it? Not a commercial operation.And the question was concerning price.

    I can understand the rule book if it involves selling to commercial customers like stores and restruants, but if you are only selling a few rabbits privatly each month to those who might come to your place, is all this still necessary?
     
  19. Michael Leferink

    Michael Leferink Well-Known Member

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    doninwis,

    The FDA regulates rabbit meat at the national level (interstate) and each state has it's own laws. In some cases, each county has it's own laws. It is up to each person to learn and comply with the laws/regs of their location. In some areas USDA regs must be followed. USDA is also needed for import/export internationally. In most states there are state regs which pretty closely follow FDA regs. Here in Louisiana we have a La. State Rabbit Permit that must be obtained in order to sell processed rabbits. The state regs follow FDA, so if a person is licensed by the state of La. they are also in compliance with FDA. As far as selling "off the farm", I believe RooMaN has it right. Anyone can ask anyone to dress any animal for them as a favor. Only licensed processors using certified butchers are allowed to sell butchered (cut up) meat. I think there is an exemption for poultry. This is in Louisiana, in your state it might be different. Now laws/regs change and I am going to be doing some more research. I'll let everyone know if I find anything different.

    MikeL
     
  20. Reauxman

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    Mike,
    Please do let me know what you know of LA's laws. Those marked breeds are getting addictive, and I have too many culls for my own use. PM me if you'd like.
    Lance