Preforming C-Sections

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  1. Rancher

    Rancher Well-Known Member

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    Ok, this my sound alittle unusual but I have this problem.
    My Doe (D-20) is due on the 21st of this month. (May). Thats 3 days. I got up this AM and found her back was broken. I am assuming something got into the barn and spooked her and she broke her back. Now, usually I would just put her out of her misery but she always produces good amounts of bunnies. her last 3 kits were 14, 10, and 12. Saving all but 1. I will destroy her but should I wait till the due date and do a C-Section? Has this been done before? Was it successful? And if successful, I have 6 more does having babies at that time. I will just foster.
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  2. animal_kingdom

    animal_kingdom Well-Known Member

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    Poor thing...and I feel bad for you too since she's a good one.
     

  3. Pat Lamar

    Pat Lamar Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Tricky question, for sure! A lot depends on the broken back, as you need to be absolutely certain that her back is truly broken. Has she lost all urine and fecal control? If so, chances are that she just won't last long enough to deliver, although you may want to try. If you can get ahold of oxytocin, you could try to induce labor early. If she has *NOT* lost bladder and fecal control, you need to test her to see if she has any feeling at all in her hind feet. You can do this simply by digging a fingernail into a toe and watching for even the very slightest reaction. Do this with both feet. If you get a reaction, no matter how slight, there is hope for saving her. I won't go into the how-to until you let me know the result of your test.

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  4. Rancher

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    Hey Pat,
    She has lost bladder and fecal control. No feeling in rear feet and legs. Not a single flinch.
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  5. Pat Lamar

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    I'm so sorry to hear that, Rancher. Never having performed a ceasarian, before, I can't really help you on this. Here's hoping she lasts long enough to deliver... only two more days! I would definitely try to keep her confined so as not to cause further injurying by moving around, and keep her close, if at all possible. Perhaps a small cage you could keep in your house temporarily? Providing a nest box for her would be a waste of effort at this point, so someone needs to be there when she delivers. Stuff the cage with straw or hay, but have a prepared nest box handy to transfer the kits to for fostering or for transporting to another doe.

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  6. dlwelch

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    Will she be able to have contractions in order to expel the
    kits? Is the doe suffering? I've had to put down a pregnant doe
    close to term. The babies (8) were alive, healthy and vigorous when
    we collected them.

    Unfortunately, I had no foster does available at the time of euthanasia

    I hope you consider the welfare of the rabbit.

    Good luck with saving the kits.

    Linda Welch
     
  7. Rancher

    Rancher Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Pat. Im going to give it a shot. I'll let you know the out come.
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  8. Rancher

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    Thanks Linda,
    the welfare of the Doe is my main concern. She has been good to me so I want to do what is right. It seems to me that she is in no pain at all. She is still eating good and I am keeping her as clean and comfortable as possible. I dont think she will be able to have contractions. That is why when the first other doe has babies I will put her down. My question to you is did you put the doe down first and do I need to do something to the babies to get them start breathing? Any info on this matter is greatly appricated. Thanks again to you and Pat. You two have been a world of help and info to me.
    Rancher

     
  9. dlwelch

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    We had to put her down because of a broken back. (A large cat gained
    entry to the barn)
    We opened her and took out the kits. You may have to shake them
    a bit when you remove them.

    Let us know how things go.
     
  10. Rancher

    Rancher Well-Known Member

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    Dang It,
    Doe 5 and Doe 15 both had 9 babies. Cant do the C-S yet. They have too many babies on them. I still have 3 more does to kindle today. I'll let you know.
    Rancher

     
  11. Rancher

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    Ok.
    Doe 7 finally had smallest amount of babies (8) to foster Doe 20's babies. I preformed the C-S and found all babies dead and pretty much in decaying condition. They must have not been getting the supply of blood or ox. supply well enough. So Thanks to you two for walking me thru this. We gave it a gallent try.
    Rancher

     
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    so sorry for your loss, rancher.
     
  13. Rancher

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    Thanks Marvella,
    But its really no big loss. Im just sorry such a good Doe suffered a few days for nothing. We live and learn. Thanks for the concern.
    Rancher
    The guy that is one rabbit short or is it one cage too many? hehehe

     
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    It was an interesting saga to follow---------
    I was hoping for a better ending :waa:
     
  15. Rancher

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    You think it was interesting to follow???? you should have been here. LOL. The Doe was hoping for a better ending too. Oh well ... next time I'll probly just put her out her misery.
    Hey Tall. What you call a deer with no eyes?
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    No Idea (No Eye Deer) hehehe get it?
    Rancher
    PS Just figured it out ... Its one cage too many