I was reading the long thread about the "best place to be" in a social breakdown. Most all posts were centered around a invasion or Nuke attack. Several years ago, while living about 1hr. from NYC during 9/11/01 I spent a few weeks thinking about this sad possibility. The first thing I did was put together a cache of firearms and ammo. To me it seems the more likley scenero of socitial breakdown would be a colapse of infutructure. Living in the burbs......we depended on supermarkets for food and city water. In a simple snow storm, may provisions would be scarce or a day or so. If there were a supply breakdown for any more than a few days anarchy would insue....new Orleans..... These wouldnt necessarily be bad people, just hungry and desperate. In a short term disruption (several weeks) a firearm would allow you to be protected and come out on top in this situation. I GOT A BIT OFF MY POINT. Anyhow I don't really think the greatest threat comes from a army invasion here. Rather some sort of supply disruption from a Plauge or catastrophic natural dasaster. This was one of the things that drove me to buy 7 acres to play with. I try to rely on nobody, or at least try to be able to outlast most. I dont expect anything like this to occur, but after living in a "dependent" style I never want to feel that way again. I go out to eat almost every day, but I take comfort in knowing I have the means to take care of my own.