I think what you are thinking of is Sandalwood. I just got a really good Sandalwood FO from Oregon Trails, for that reason.Betho said:Oh yeah, here's some info on palm oil specifically
Another one that comes to mind is certain essential oils that are being harvested more than what can be renewed... I can't remember the one specifically I'm thinking of but it's some sort of tree where more are being harvested for the EO's in the bark each year than what the new growth is. I keep wanting to say redwood or cedarwood except I know it isn't that one.
I think my point is just that while we will always have disagreements, it's imperative to be completely educated and look at the true "footprint" instead of just keying in on buzzwords like "organic." And don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying anything bad about organic products, I'm just saying that sometimes the organic products have a bigger footprint than you'd think, so buyer beware
Ah, yes Ann, you CAN make a form of lye from potash - hardwoods only - the ashes of soft woods just isn't strong enough.Wisconsin Ann said:Hate to disagree with Cyndi (it's bad karma), but you CAN make organic lye. At least, if you consider 'organic' to be 'naturally made'. Leech water thru woodash. it's the way grandma used to make her lye for soap. pretty caustic of course, and dangerous for spills...but...there ya go.
I think perhaps you need to re-read my post. I was calling for people to be educated in what they do - obviously I'm not against the use of palm oil itself, I just happened to use it as an example as it came to mind. I certainly wouldn't recommend someone using imported oils from India, whose purveyors kill the infant daughters of the women who work for them. I tell people to use oils that can be sustainably produced in an ethical manner.Step said:However, even if we do use the lye, we have control over the oils and other ingredients we put into our soap! What about the packaging and labeling? Have you smelled that shrink wrap??? That's a Chemical Cocktail all in it's self! You don't think that doesn't have something to do with those poor Polar Bears dying from exhaustion and starvation? What about the oils you use imported from India?? What guarantee do you have that the purveyors aren't the very people sending their mothers out to die? Or, killing their infant daughters? You still buy your oils and butters, don't you! How many people even know where their oils come from? You know, there's not even an organization set up to try to make changes, and help those helpless women and innocent babies, as there is with PO.
Your life style is to be admired. And I agree that any properly homemade soap is far better than store bought. I do have resources around me.. but there's nothing like home grown to be absolutely sure.MullersLaneFarm said:Bless your heart, Step. I'm glad you have manufactured products that work for your condition!
I guess being able to raise & grow the majority of my family's food (meat, vegetables, fruit, honey, eggs, milk) and not have to depend on corporate farming methods is part of my decision to use the ingredients I do in my soaps.
I know where my tallow, lard, milk & honey I use in my soaps come from. I know how they are raised & what they eat.
Any properly made homemade soap is better than the commercial store bought since our soap contains glycerin that naturally occurs in saponification. The fact that animal oils produce more glycerin than vegetable oils has been documented.
By the way, I don't soap with animal fat any more than you soap with an olive. The suet or leaf fat is rendered into an oil just as your olive (or olive pit) is extracted into an oil.
I'm very glad you have found what works for you - but many people don't have your condition and are much happier with soaps made from oils different than your own.
India elected their first woman president.. How great is that for moving in a positive direction!Betho said:I think perhaps you need to re-read my post. I was calling for people to be educated in what they do - obviously I'm not against the use of palm oil itself, I just happened to use it as an example as it came to mind. I certainly wouldn't recommend someone using imported oils from India, whose purveyors kill the infant daughters of the women who work for them. I tell people to use oils that can be sustainably produced in an ethical manner.
It had nothing to do with DNA, your skin or mine, etc, your single parenthood or my single parenthood, either of our busy lives, etc.My choices are very specific born out of 2.5 decades of experience, introspection, research and learned knowledge.