[big rockpile]

Ok Local Cops did couple Raids the other day, didn't have Warrants and didn't knock or Identify their selves.

They didn't find anything. Do they no longer need a Warrant? And what if a person was to shoot them entering their house which is legal here in Missouri to shoot anyone breaking into your house?

big rockpile

 

[bigjon]

if their with a parole officer no warrant needed

 

[Danaus29]

If you shoot an intruder and it turns out to be a cop you be charged with murder;
http://therighttobear.com/man-charged-for-murder-after-killing-police-officer-in-no-knock-raid/

Although this guy was eventually not charged for killing a cop, it apparently was the exception
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/texas-man-wont-prosecuted-killing-cop-knock-raid/

And no warrant is needed if the cops believe you are a danger to yourself;
http://www.politicalears.com/blog/s...fiscate-your-guns-without-warrant-or-charges/

And apparently the cops are never wrong and are not responsible for damages incurred while raiding the wrong address.

Just fyi, a map showing botched SWAT and paramilitary police raids:
http://www.cato.org/raidmap

I'll freely admit, doing a google search on "no warrant police raids" really has me frightened.

 

[big rockpile]

If you shoot an intruder and it turns out to be a cop you be charged with murder;
http://therighttobear.com/man-charged-for-murder-after-killing-police-officer-in-no-knock-raid/

Although this guy was eventually not charged for killing a cop, it apparently was the exception
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/texas-man-wont-prosecuted-killing-cop-knock-raid/

And no warrant is needed if the cops believe you are a danger to yourself;
http://www.politicalears.com/blog/s...fiscate-your-guns-without-warrant-or-charges/

These were Drug Raids.

If said Cop don't identify their self how are you to know who you are shooting?

Truth I have never shot anyone trying to get in my house but my wife has and wasn't charged for any of it. Oh she shot through the Door.

big rockpile

 

[Danaus29]

These were Drug Raids.

What do you expect them to say? We just felt like busting up a house and shooting people.

 

[simi-steading]

How dare you question the police and their tactics.. You need to close our curtains and mind your own business or they will be kicking in your door next and all your questions will be answered..

 

[Evons hubby]

Nothing new about no knock entry for drug raids.... that was going on in the early seventies when I was living in Kalifornia. One of my neighbors got raided.... cops kicked the doors in, rushed in with their shotguns and busted a bunch of us guys... holding a bible study!!! They exited a bit quieter and were a bit red faced but no apologies or fixing the damages.

 

[sunny225]

The cops these days like to kill dogs & people -- whether they are at the 'right' house or not. IF there is an investigation, they get paid vacation & usually reinstated promptly.
No justice these days & certainly the rule of law is dead in this country.

 

[ceresone]

Oh, No--I disagree with the comment about Cops liking to shoot people--sounds like Ferguson all over again!
They do have to identify themselves as they break in--unless laws changed in Mo--the only person not needing a warrent is a game warden.

 

[kasilofhome]

Think about something....the what role does the legislature ....law makers have in this?
What role does the judicial play in this. Do bureaucratic truly have more power when the executive brand is out of control.

Votes do matter. Is supporting a group of people who threatened abuse a good thing to vote for?

Did people think it was going to get better.

 

[Mrs. Thankful]

Police get a pass with these two words... probable cause.

 

[Danaus29]

They do have to identify themselves as they break in-

Just like they have to obey traffic laws????? Doesn't matter if they are required to identify themselves or not. Many times they simply don't and conveniently also don't have functioning or any recorders. I know for a fact that they'll knock down your door without identifying themselves.

 

[wr]

Ok Local Cops did couple Raids the other day, didn't have Warrants and didn't knock or Identify their selves.

They didn't find anything. Do they no longer need a Warrant? And what if a person was to shoot them entering their house which is legal here in Missouri to shoot anyone breaking into your house?

big rockpile

Are you sure of that or just what you've been told? I would think if it is fact, there would be a few lawyers interested in litigating the illegal search and seizure aspect.

 

[mmoetc]

Police get a pass with these two words... probable cause.

Probable cause gets a warrant. Exigant circumstances allow immediate entry.

 

[msscamp]

Do they no longer need a Warrant?

The police have never needed a warrant if they have probable cause.

 

[mmoetc]

The police have never needed a warrant if they have probable cause.

Wrong, probable cause is grounds for holding someone or applying for a warrant. Exigent circumstances, which usually means that someone is in danger, allow law enforcement to enter. Law enforcement officials often have a heightened sense of danger.

 

[Evons hubby]

Law enforcement officials often have a heightened sense of danger.

Maybe we should hire men that arent such scaredy cats?

 

[mmoetc]

Maybe we should hire men that arent such scaredy cats?

I'd prefer hiring those most interested in following the laws they're charged to uphold.

 

[Evons hubby]

I'd prefer hiring those most interested in following the laws they're charged to uphold.

yeppers, that would help a lot too. But in most cases with limited budgets there are only about so many high school drop outs willing to take the job. Our choices are somewhat limited.

 

[haypoint]

Maybe we should hire men that arent such scaredy cats?

35 cops shot dead last year and 30 the year before that. Scaredy cats? Too scaredy, too macho. Would someone make up their minds?:nono: